Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The fact that people in interceptors die means that you're wrong. No one can fly across New Eden with no risk even in an interceptor. You're exaggerating the situation in order to further your argument. The issue with that is that an argument based on a fallacy is no argument at all.


You've had it explained to you how interceptors can be caught. If you're not prepared to fly ships specifically designed to kill interceptors (insta locking ships) and/or not prepared to fly with others that's your problem, not the game. The counters are there. You either don't understand them, don't want to use them or simply are too incompetent to use them. None of this is the game's fault and therefore the issue here is between the chair and keyboard and the change needs to be made inside your head, not in the game code. I'm not trying to pick on you. This is simply how it is.


This is a great example of what I said in my last comment. You don't fly ships because you can't see how to fly them. If what you say is true, no one would fly industrial ships and no materials would move around New Eden high sec. Well, I can tell you with certainty that other people are flying those ships and are moving stuff around high sec. It's just that they've figured out the tolerances within which to work to minimise the risks. The fact that your opinion is that if you can't do precisely what you want to do it's not worth doing points very strongly to the problem being with you, not the game.

Again, I'm not trying to have a go at you but instead I'm trying to point out that you need to think about these things logically rather than emotionally deciding you can't do something simply because you made a mistake and got shot. Take responsibility for your mistakes instead of blaming an "unfair" game. I've see too many people in EvE try something, get shot, try it again, get shot, try it again, get shot then quit what they were doing completely not once thinking that perhaps if they modified how were there doing it with the information they received by being shot they might be able to make it work. Often, they then come onto the forums and complain about how some game mechanic or other is unfair. In most cases it's not unfair, they're just a dumbass.


This is the same for any fleet. With enough caution and scouting this works for pretty much anything.

interceptors are awesome, really opened up null sec for me. They pay for their advantages with a paper thin tank. I don't think there's a problem here.

QFT. Now read it again. Twice. Then try to understand it. This is not targeted at anyone in particular but to everyone in general.

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The fact that there is now only interceptors is the proof that there is a problem with them.

Of course they are fun to fly.

But if they replace all other ships then why creating something else?

As usual with my posts, I try to have an objective vision of the metagame.
I do not complain because I have lost a ship against Interceptors.
In fact I have lost a lot of ships against interceptors. And I killed quite a few of them.
I am concern about the fact there is only interceptors because of their impunity.

No more assault fregates, no more cruisers, not even these shiny electronic frigates.
Not because these ship are not good. But because the Interceptors are OP.

Stop trying to find why I am wrong or why I complain. I am not whining. I know exactly how to avoid the fight if I want to. If i lose ship it is because I take risks.

The fact that you see almost nothing else than interceptors is due anything else being able to survive deklein.

I can assure you I would like nothing as much as still roam in my machariel. However, if I come with a machariel to Deklein, you know too well what will happend. And the same goes to all sov space. I'm fine with ppl being able to have certain advantages in there homesystems over the intruder. However even with inties you still have. Inties are not able to threat anything at all. All that dies are ppl AFK and individuals coming to help one at the time someone tackled.

Infact you CFC ppl seem to be so sure inties are danger to your sov, I am tempted to for a public operation to try to claim sove from CFC. If that comes to be a successful operation, I am more than happy to admit I was wrong.

Do I really have to repeat myself? There are other fleet types flying around, lots of them.

The reason you don't see them lies in your always same, predictable reactions to other fleet. This reaction led to ceptors being among the few viable fleets to fly around in such hostile space. Why should people use other fleets if they guarantee your loss without anything gained?

Making one of the few remaining fleets less viable in such hostile environment does nothing to improve the game, it only makes it easier for you and harder for others. That's ABSOLUTELY not desirable!



We think very objectively about the points you throw at us. Every point so far only leads to less effort for you in defending your belongings, less risk to take and less time to invest, while increasing all that for other parties you don't want to see.

You also should think about the "clone with one mind" thing. As far as I recall CFC members are not permitted to have an own mind, if I remember mitt's article on that matter and some articles about own identities in CFC correctly. [;-)]

this.

Plus if goons can't win they petition ccp to change the game mechanics lol...

Im just saying, you can have a proteus fleet that reps insane amounts of damage, gives links, has nice projected damage and insane point range/ or good smartbomb coverage that aligns nearly as quickly as a ceptor and warps over 50% faster. Its your fault if you dont use the games tools and instead cry about uncatchable ceptors.

So now interceptors replace all other ships in the game? They replace battleships, freighters, dreadnoughts, and interdictors.

The typical "LOL I TROL" defense coming from this goon in 3... 2... 1...