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Dear CCP - High Sec Criminal Accountability

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EZ Windy
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-12-01 17:29:17 UTC
I would like to see greater criminal accountability for the High Sec gank rappers who have become a real problem for the High Sec single player and/or the small mining/mission runner corp.

As in real life, I would like to see greater penalties given to those inconsiderate gank rappers who circumvent the War Dec mechanism to fulfill their narcissistic social needs. Penalties which would include but not limited to, being "exiled" to Low Sec for a specific time period based on your criminal history (the more criminal activities you do the longer your exile, no buyouts).

I have seen friendly people leave the game because its not living up to their industrial or game play expectation within the time they have to play. Furthermore, and given the choice, the honest and generally friendly player should not have to experience the worst of what humanity has to offer.




Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#2 - 2011-12-01 17:32:15 UTC
why dont you learn to deal with it by either mining in a more secure place (like low sec but even also in gravimetric sites) or make an effort to fly something with a tank. Battleships don't have a much worse yield than a hulk does and no one but the most determined would bother to suicide gank it, plus it's insurable.

Forcing restrictions on other players because it doesn't meet your expectations of the game is rather poor form and frankly unfair in an MMO.

Don't be a victim, adapt!

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#3 - 2011-12-01 17:32:42 UTC
*gets popcorn ready*

I've got extra, if anyone wants some.
Marcus Wilde
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-12-01 17:34:24 UTC
EZ Windy wrote:
As in real life,

See, there's your problem there!

Tears + Bucket = Win
Arcosian
Arcosian Heavy Industries Corp Holding
#5 - 2011-12-01 17:35:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Arcosian
The mechanic is already implemented as suicide gankers lose sec status each time they gank. If they lose enough they become KOS in empire. The only way to get back into empire and not be KOS is to go ratting in low/0.0 to rebuild their sec-status until they can "safely" reenter empire space. So in effect they are "exiled" until they grind the rats.

And quoting the OP
Quote:
Furthermore, and given the choice, the honest and generally friendly player should not have to experience the worst of what humanity has to offer.


Welcome to EVE :)

Edit: typo
Davos Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-12-01 17:35:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Davos Egivand
EZ Windy wrote:
I would like to see greater criminal accountability for the High Sec gank rappers who have become a real problem for the High Sec single player and/or the small mining/mission runner corp.

As in real life, I would like to see greater penalties given to those inconsiderate gank rappers who circumvent the War Dec mechanism to fulfill their narcissistic social needs. Penalties which would include but not limited to, being "exiled" to Low Sec for a specific time period based on your criminal history (the more criminal activities you do the longer your exile, no buyouts).

I have seen friendly people leave the game because its not living up to their industrial or game play expectation within the time they have to play. Furthermore, and given the choice, the honest and generally friendly player should not have to experience the worst of what humanity has to offer.





The worst that humanity has to offer is what happened/is happening in Rwanda or Darfur or something like that. Someone blowing up your internet spaceships is not quite as horrible.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#7 - 2011-12-01 17:37:00 UTC
Your friends are weak. I suggest you find stronger friends and you shall enjoy the majesty of this game as the rest of us do.

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#8 - 2011-12-01 17:37:49 UTC
ganking is bypassing the wardec mechanism?

the stuff you learn from high sec carebears...
Astonishing...
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#9 - 2011-12-01 17:50:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaivar Lancer
I too got suicide-ganked shortly after the daily downtime, and lost 1b isk worth of goods. But this is Eve. I congratulated my killer on his good kill, dusted myself off, hauled ass back to Jita and scrounged all the isk I had left to restart my business empire. There is something brutal about Eve - and it is one of those games that unashamably punishes stupidity. I decided to gamble and transport 1b worth of goods in a T1 industrial and suffered horribly. Lesson learnt. Now I'm contracting couriers to move my stuff. This is a GAME, have fun with it. Twisted
Majora Veneris
Doomheim
#10 - 2011-12-01 17:57:20 UTC
EZ Windy wrote:
I would like to see greater criminal accountability for the High Sec gank rappers who have become a real problem for the High Sec single player and/or the small mining/mission runner corp.

As in real life, I would like to see greater penalties given to those inconsiderate gank rappers who circumvent the War Dec mechanism to fulfill their narcissistic social needs. Penalties which would include but not limited to, being "exiled" to Low Sec for a specific time period based on your criminal history (the more criminal activities you do the longer your exile, no buyouts).

I have seen friendly people leave the game because its not living up to their industrial or game play expectation within the time they have to play. Furthermore, and given the choice, the honest and generally friendly player should not have to experience the worst of what humanity has to offer.




Probably feeding the troll here.....

CCP Just nerfed Suicide ganking. IE no more insurance if your destroyed by concord. And they already have a sort of "Exile" to low and null. If your sec status gets low enough, you will be shot on sight in empire space.

Im a carebear, and even i say its about balanced now. no further penalties (or rewards) are needed. you just need to fly smarter.


and as far as this line goes...
EZ Windy wrote:

Furthermore, and given the choice, the honest and generally friendly player should not have to experience the worst of what humanity has to offer.




Welcome to EVE. Just because YOU feel you shouldnt have to, doesn't mean it wont happen. If you don't want to deal with the gankers/ect, Don't undock, and never engage in any market activities.

Every Ad i've seen for EVE advertised the game as a "Cold, Harsh Player-Driven Sandbox Game"
Please point out to me what part of that means "Everyone is friendly to each other, and we all sing Kumbaya by the campfire"

[b]A Good Forum Post Is Like A Skirt.... Long Enough To Cover The Subject Matter, But Short Enough To Keep Things Interesting.[/b]
Handsome Hussein
#11 - 2011-12-01 18:02:40 UTC
EZ Windy wrote:
High Sec gank rappers

Last night my girl was talking about having our cat in some YouTube video doing "Straight Outta Catbox", or some **** like that.

I think your band idea is better.

Leaves only the fresh scent of pine.
TFC Gimli
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-12-01 18:09:13 UTC
Majora Veneris wrote:
EZ Windy wrote:
I would like to see greater criminal accountability for the High Sec gank rappers who have become a real problem for the High Sec single player and/or the small mining/mission runner corp.

As in real life, I would like to see greater penalties given to those inconsiderate gank rappers who circumvent the War Dec mechanism to fulfill their narcissistic social needs. Penalties which would include but not limited to, being "exiled" to Low Sec for a specific time period based on your criminal history (the more criminal activities you do the longer your exile, no buyouts).

I have seen friendly people leave the game because its not living up to their industrial or game play expectation within the time they have to play. Furthermore, and given the choice, the honest and generally friendly player should not have to experience the worst of what humanity has to offer.




Probably feeding the troll here.....

CCP Just nerfed Suicide ganking. IE no more insurance if your destroyed by concord. And they already have a sort of "Exile" to low and null. If your sec status gets low enough, you will be shot on sight in empire space.

Im a carebear, and even i say its about balanced now. no further penalties (or rewards) are needed. you just need to fly smarter.


and as far as this line goes...
EZ Windy wrote:

Furthermore, and given the choice, the honest and generally friendly player should not have to experience the worst of what humanity has to offer.




Welcome to EVE. Just because YOU feel you shouldnt have to, doesn't mean it wont happen. If you don't want to deal with the gankers/ect, Don't undock, and never engage in any market activities.

Every Ad i've seen for EVE advertised the game as a "Cold, Harsh Player-Driven Sandbox Game"
Please point out to me what part of that means "Everyone is friendly to each other, and we all sing Kumbaya by the campfire"


I could not help but laugh at the idea that we all sing kumbaya at gates and pass around marshmallows :)
You get a like for making me smile :)
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#13 - 2011-12-01 18:12:43 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I too got suicide-ganked shortly after the daily downtime, and lost 1b isk worth of goods. But this is Eve. I congratulated my killer on his good kill, dusted myself off, hauled ass back to Jita and scrounged all the isk I had left to restart my business empire. There is something brutal about Eve - and it is one of those games that unashamably punishes stupidity. I decided to gamble and transport 1b worth of goods in a T1 industrial and suffered horribly. Lesson learnt. Now I'm contracting couriers to move my stuff. This is a GAME, have fun with it. Twisted



CCP, clone this guy!
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-12-01 18:36:01 UTC
Im mainly a carebear apart from when im not and i dont want this game to be any more carebear friendly. If this game has no risks then it becomes boring very fast


TLDR dont be gay
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#15 - 2011-12-01 19:04:36 UTC
EZ Windy wrote:
I would like to see greater criminal accountability for the High Sec gank rappers who have become a real problem for the High Sec single player and/or the small mining/mission runner corp.

As in real life, I would like to see greater penalties given to those inconsiderate gank rappers who circumvent the War Dec mechanism to fulfill their narcissistic social needs. Penalties which would include but not limited to, being "exiled" to Low Sec for a specific time period based on your criminal history (the more criminal activities you do the longer your exile, no buyouts).

I have seen friendly people leave the game because its not living up to their industrial or game play expectation within the time they have to play. Furthermore, and given the choice, the honest and generally friendly player should not have to experience the worst of what humanity has to offer.






So how many Michi's did you have to rebuy when your icebots got ganked?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#16 - 2011-12-01 19:11:36 UTC
Why should EVE mechanics take your musical preferences into account?
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-12-01 19:12:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Dear OP.

shooting pods that have GCC ... please make it legal


Here. Maybe we can get together for a common goal.
It's a small change, but it's still something that would help, too.
Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-12-01 19:50:15 UTC
High Sec Gank Rappers!

Yo yo yo!
High Sec Gank rappers
giving fright to us nappers
we are kids playing wif our candy wrappers
now we want to give pirates the stabbers

we whinge and moan and cry all day
coz all we want to do is safely play
pirates making this game a fizzle
yo yo yo thats how it is me nizzle

*does grotesque finger bending like a gangsta!*

yoooooo!!!!
Blood Fart
Rock Hard Productions
#19 - 2011-12-01 19:55:04 UTC
EZ Windy wrote:

I have seen friendly people leave the game because its not living up to their industrial or game play expectation within the time they have to play.



You've seen people TRY the game and decide it wasn't for them. I've had two friends from an older game try this and leave....one had no imagination and the other was kinda always known as braindead and didn't want to learn the mechanics. If eve catered to those types of people I wouldn't play it.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-12-01 20:05:26 UTC
Blood Fart wrote:
You've seen people TRY the game and decide it wasn't for them. I've had two friends from an older game try this and leave....one had no imagination and the other was kinda always known as braindead and didn't want to learn the mechanics. If eve catered to those types of people I wouldn't play it.


Quoting because of concord. (now THAT's a good pun).

Also ... epic name ! lol
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