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SevenOfSix
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-04-16 02:51:12 UTC
What if there was an option to create a character that cannot buy clones, dock, or travel in high sec? A free to play character slot.

This character starts with skills needed to fit and fly a strategic cruiser. they will be able to train the skills they already have, but cannot buy or train new skills. Also, if podded they start over from scratch NO CLONES.

They would start in one of the Factional Warfare corporations. They can join a player corp, but only if the player corp has joined Factional Warfare, if the corp leaves the player goes back to the NPC fw corps.

They can not enter High sec space.

They can not dock. if they want to buy something from the market it has to be delivered to a new deployable thingie, or even to a mobile depot. Maybe make them spend AUR on a mobile depot delivery. Also allow them access to the LP store and Faction agents in space ...some how.

I don’t know, what do you think?
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-04-16 02:56:09 UTC
SevenOfSix wrote:
What if there was an option to create a character that cannot buy clones, dock, or travel in high sec? A free to play character slot.

This character starts with skills needed to fit and fly a strategic cruiser. they will be able to train the skills they already have, but cannot buy or train new skills. Also, if podded they start over from scratch NO CLONES.

They would start in one of the Factional Warfare corporations. They can join a player corp, but only if the player corp has joined Factional Warfare, if the corp leaves the player goes back to the NPC fw corps.

They can not enter High sec space.

They can not dock. if they want to buy something from the market it has to be delivered to a new deployable thingie, or even to a mobile depot. Maybe make them spend AUR on a mobile depot delivery. Also allow them access to the LP store and Faction agents in space ...some how.

I don’t know, what do you think?



I think you need to pass along whatever you are smoking. **** is potent
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#3 - 2014-04-16 03:06:21 UTC
Because every freshly rolled character will have enough isk to buy a tech 3 ship and properly fit it!

That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money....
Kasife Vynneve
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-04-16 03:18:43 UTC
Sounds like someone wants to pad the kill board with free T3 kills
Nolen Cadmar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-04-16 04:09:14 UTC
No free-to-play EVE. That is all.

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Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#6 - 2014-04-16 04:20:50 UTC
screw that. just pure free to play. plex up to 700mil and it will just keep on rising if this game went free to play

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Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-04-16 05:38:08 UTC
so what t3 are we talking here?

Are we talking link booster out of the box?
+Logi?
+E-war?


Hell of a free char you are giving away here really. Link booster is the most troublesome. Until ogb fixed....link alts tend to not go boom as often. The link alt is already too common...does eve need to make it even easier to have? At least currently you need 1.4 billion to plex a basic 2 man setup with link alt.



Also what is with no empire and FW only. 0.0, wh, piracy....they'd have none of these options. Not running in a fw corp and hoping the say wh corp they roll with as well knows not to shoot them for example anyway.
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#8 - 2014-04-16 07:59:05 UTC
Now I can awox and farm lp with no risk. Even if EvE itself became f2p - it would become alts online
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#9 - 2014-04-16 08:13:00 UTC
This has come up many times and as with each and every one of those....

Hell NO!
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-04-16 09:37:47 UTC
Free 0-risk booster alts?
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#11 - 2014-04-16 10:15:08 UTC
bad troll 3/10

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#12 - 2014-04-16 10:25:07 UTC
SevenOfSix, When you come up with a new (or not so new) idea, rather than running to post it on the forums, Please look at it from a different point of view first... it will help you decide if its worth posting.

I'm sure you saw things in this idea that you would use in the game, but you really need to look at it from the 'how can this be abused' side!!!!!

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#13 - 2014-04-16 11:40:14 UTC
I'd really like to think this is a troll if only because I don't want to believe that someone would seriously suggest such a outstandingly bad and abusable idea.

Not supported with extreme prejudice.

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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#14 - 2014-04-16 13:18:37 UTC
Go back to star-trek online.

On a serious note: Imagine blotting out the sun with free to play 900k SP suicide alts. Free to play would wreck trade hubs.
Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#15 - 2014-04-16 20:21:31 UTC
SevenOfSix wrote:
What if there was an option to create a character that cannot buy clones, dock, or travel in high sec? A free to play character slot.

This character starts with skills needed to fit and fly a strategic cruiser. they will be able to train the skills they already have, but cannot buy or train new skills. Also, if podded they start over from scratch NO CLONES.

They would start in one of the Factional Warfare corporations. They can join a player corp, but only if the player corp has joined Factional Warfare, if the corp leaves the player goes back to the NPC fw corps.

They can not enter High sec space.

They can not dock. if they want to buy something from the market it has to be delivered to a new deployable thingie, or even to a mobile depot. Maybe make them spend AUR on a mobile depot delivery. Also allow them access to the LP store and Faction agents in space ...some how.

I don’t know, what do you think?


You're suggesting that someone be given a ship without the ability to fly it anywhere?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#16 - 2014-04-16 20:41:27 UTC
No.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#17 - 2014-04-16 21:22:04 UTC
SevenOfSix wrote:
What if there was an option to create a character that cannot buy clones, dock, or travel in high sec? A free to play character slot.

This character starts with skills needed to fit and fly a strategic cruiser. they will be able to train the skills they already have, but cannot buy or train new skills. Also, if podded they start over from scratch NO CLONES.

They would start in one of the Factional Warfare corporations. They can join a player corp, but only if the player corp has joined Factional Warfare, if the corp leaves the player goes back to the NPC fw corps.

They can not enter High sec space.

They can not dock. if they want to buy something from the market it has to be delivered to a new deployable thingie, or even to a mobile depot. Maybe make them spend AUR on a mobile depot delivery. Also allow them access to the LP store and Faction agents in space ...some how.

I don’t know, what do you think?

I do not mean to be to critical, but I can think of ways to exploit that, especially if I was flying in faction warfare space.

On top of that, CCP would not want to encourage such free play. It could make new players to be chased away from flying in faction warfare if such pilots existed.

Just for argument's sake: If they were to even do such a ridiculous allowance, it would never be strategic cruisers. Navy faction frigates would be more likely, because this is faction warfare, not wormholes or null sec.

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#18 - 2014-04-16 22:46:47 UTC
SevenOfSix wrote:
What if there was an option to create a character that cannot buy clones, dock, or travel in high sec? A free to play character slot.

This character starts with skills needed to fit and fly a strategic cruiser. they will be able to train the skills they already have, but cannot buy or train new skills. Also, if podded they start over from scratch NO CLONES.

They would start in one of the Factional Warfare corporations. They can join a player corp, but only if the player corp has joined Factional Warfare, if the corp leaves the player goes back to the NPC fw corps.

They can not enter High sec space.

They can not dock. if they want to buy something from the market it has to be delivered to a new deployable thingie, or even to a mobile depot. Maybe make them spend AUR on a mobile depot delivery. Also allow them access to the LP store and Faction agents in space ...some how.

I don’t know, what do you think?


I like it. Make the free T3 a Legion with covert-subsystem and forbid those F2P-schmucks from ever changing the subsystem. Just to help them out, you see. Eve can be scary if you don't have clones. Also make that Legion spawn with officer-fits, please. (No reason, just make it so.) Following your suggestion, they won't have the cloaking skill, of course. Since that is technically not really needed to fly a Legion, the covert-subsystem just "allows" to use a covert cloak, after all. It doesn't demand it.

By the way, aren't there a lot of stations and agents of the FW corporations in HighSec? Those players of yours would be unable to use about half the agents and stations of their own FW corp, since they can't enter HighSec. Now this is the kind of cruelty I can support. Death to F2P! Wait, you are against F2P, right?
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#19 - 2014-04-16 22:52:43 UTC
Free-to-play games bring in all kinds of unwanted human trash.

I'm not even being abusive here. A very significant number of the people you see in those games should be forcibly biomassed.

..and OP wants that kind of diseased filth here in EVE? No thank you.