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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2014-04-03 18:30:54 UTC
Muffet McStrudel wrote:
No, CCP wants you to move your really expensive BPO out into null and low sec in a hapless indy


Why the hell would anyone ever chose to move BPOs in an indy, let alone expensive BPOs. I'm sure there are less appropriate ships to move them in, but right now I can't think of one.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#22 - 2014-04-03 20:19:28 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Muffet McStrudel wrote:
No, CCP wants you to move your really expensive BPO out into null and low sec in a hapless indy


Why the hell would anyone ever chose to move BPOs in an indy, let alone expensive BPOs. I'm sure there are less appropriate ships to move them in, but right now I can't think of one.


Blockade Runner (e.g. Viator)
Stealth Bomber
Cov Ops

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-04-03 21:38:07 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Blockade Runner (e.g. Viator)
Stealth Bomber
Cov Ops


Those are certainly better than an indy. Maybe Interceptor as well

What I can't think of are any ships *less* appropriate for expensive BPOs than a T1 indy.
Saduria
Saduria Corp.
#24 - 2014-04-04 03:52:19 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Muffet McStrudel wrote:
No, CCP wants you to move your really expensive BPO out into null and low sec in a hapless indy


Why the hell would anyone ever chose to move BPOs in an indy, let alone expensive BPOs. I'm sure there are less appropriate ships to move them in, but right now I can't think of one.


Freighter and Orca pop into my mind
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-04-04 04:15:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Caleidascope
I do my research in low sec npc stations. I used shuttle to move them around. Have not had any problems, yet.

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Gondar Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-04-05 13:28:21 UTC
Muffet McStrudel wrote:
No, CCP wants you to move your really expensive BPO out into null and low sec in a hapless indy so that their gate ganking friends can profit. Even better, they want to be able to hot drop you while cloaked and have zero chance at losses, thereby "fostering" more pvp.

CCP gave you great tools to be near invulnerable to PvP in low sec or even null to move BPOs around -- and you're using a damn indy?
Maxx Run
Maxx Run Blueprint Services
#27 - 2014-04-05 21:20:31 UTC
Saduria wrote:
Freighter and Orca pop into my mind


Really?! As the colourful man said - Shuttle. Or an Inty, Cov-Ops - succeptable to SB's, nano'd they are immune to all but the ultimate death camp. That is where the map statistics page comes in though.

If you happen to be the very first pilot to hit an UDC (Uber Death Camp) then it was just your time to die, enjoy the 'pretty lights' and instant trip home.

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Muffet McStrudel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-04-07 11:42:29 UTC
All you tools missed the bigger point which is CCP wants you to have to move the BPO's to low/null sec to do the research in the first place. Null sec and industry don't really mix.

It really doesn't matter what you move them in.
Scarlett LaBlanc
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-04-07 14:30:52 UTC
Or you pay someone 200 million ISK or so if you can't be bothered to grind some standings and you put up a high sec POS.

Do all the research you want.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#30 - 2014-04-07 17:05:47 UTC

1.) There are many options to do BP research. Yes, the "safest" and "cheapest" have the longest queues. The "extra time" it takes to perform that research is the price of that research.

2.) IMO, the cost of research should be dramatically increased in NPC stations, making POS research more profitable in comparison to NPC research. For example, at 33k isk per hr per line (instead of 333 isk per hour per line), would put the costs of fueling a POS for research more inline with the costs of utilizing the NPC station.

3.) There are many options for you:
Use an NPC station in lowsec or nullsec, which have shorter queues.
Use a Blackfrog or similar service to safely move BPO's for you.
The safest ship to move bpo's in is probably an covert, nullified, T3 cruiser with warp stabs and nanos in the low. These are very hard to catch, especially if you utilize insta-undocks and insta-dock bookmarks while traveling.

Claudius Dethahal
Amarrians for Tax Reform-Kador
#31 - 2014-04-10 21:04:31 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1798288#post1798288

A lot of people don't realize you can add a job to a busy slot; it just gets added to the end of the queue for that slot.


I had no idea this was the case, just added my first copy and research jobs to the shortest queues in the region. Thanks, I was really dissappointed in manufacturing before this!
DetKhord Saisio
Seniors Clan
#32 - 2014-04-13 09:03:44 UTC
If you have long-term research/invention/build profession plans, try joining a low/nulsec corp to get you on the right path. There are so many tips and tricks on their forums/wiki/etc. then practice traveling to desired station, once you have all your necessary bookmarks to arrive/depart safely. Freebie tip: do not use your main to move expensive items.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#33 - 2014-04-14 02:05:42 UTC
I move my expensive BPOs into lowsec for long research jobs. I fly them there in an Interceptor with warp speed rigs and agility lowslots. Lightning fast align time, and even if I do get spotted somehow, I move at 4600m/s so good luck catching me in the 3-4 seconds I'm on grid.

Before I had the ability to fly interceptors, I used cruisers with a full rack of warp core stabilizers.

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flakeys
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-04-15 11:09:29 UTC
Mega Warpdrive wrote:
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Wait, go to lowsec or NPC nullsec, put up a POS or buy pre-researched BPOs (or pay someone to research them for you). Lots of options.




Dont want to go to lowsec, POS is to expencive, Pay someone to do it for me means less profit + chance of getting ripped off.



And this basically sums up a larger part of today's playerbase . I want i want i want .. but don't let it cost me time or effort owwww no .

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Julius Cabeki
Huola Industrial Development
#35 - 2014-04-15 12:30:21 UTC
Join BNI and buy a stealth bomber. You can get a blops bridge to a soon to be conquered station.
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