EVE General Discussion

CCPgames isn't evil yet, but they do like how Microsoft operates apparently.



Because as shareholders of CCPgames they only have to give account to the other shareholders, the New Eden and fellow (former) White Wolf customers are not on that list as stakeholders so far I can see.

It's a shame they forget every few years this important rule in retail:

'There is only one boss. The customer. And he can fire everybody in the company from the chairman on down, simply by spending his money somewhere else.'

Sam Walton



Is the CARBON technology CCPgames developed (for many years) not strong enough to support MMOrpg implementation ?

Post number 8 and the crying starts already. Jesus ******* Christ I hate EvE players sometimes. Its like the older child crying and shitting himself because the newer kid is getting more attention. Clean yourself up, youre 11. CCP gets to have as many kids as they want.

What else will happen twenty years from now?

Comparing a game just thinking about alphaing now with a game twenty years in development lol

Theres a word... disingenuous I think it is

Remember these words

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/2672




Given that this kid was cancelled, Im thinking not.

They get as many kids as we will pay for. If they try to make to many they lose them all.

Kids arent a good analogy here

The words up there pertain directly to your comment



Go to PAX East I think its called. Theres a demo of sorts I keep hearing

I actually totally follow those rules with a game called MWO. SC Im not even that interested in but I can at least tell its not a scam to steal peoples' money.

This is quite frustrating.

If there was a company that could make a WoD MMO, it was CCP and CCP alone. To be a WoD fan who depended on the universe's transition to computer games to keep playing (I can't LARP or tabletop nearly as often as I could, for various reasons), and to suddenly see yourself without any hope of a WoD game on the horizon is terrible.

For those hardcore EVE players who don't understand, I like a friend's analogy: Picture yourselves in 15 years, in a hypothetical future when non Virtual Reality games are a thing of the past, nobody plays EVE anymore except you and a hundred more dinosaurs (Try to picture a game as grand as EVE with no more than 200 players at your reach), and there's no Virtual Reality conversion of EVE. If you like the EVE universe as much as WoD players like WoD universe, you'd feel bad. You'd keep playing your old game, but you'd feel bad.

And EVE is not dying, but it's not dying just like a 40 year old man isn't dying, but it's showing it's first signs of wear. The devs seem to spend more time correcting bugs and adapting new features than actually implementing them because the code is getting old. And that's also frustrating. I think it's also a point to wonder, if you care to drop your affirmative bias at least a while, that maybe CCP isn't putting EVE aside (I personally think that's unlikely and obvious), but that it isn't as easy to implement new features anymore, because the code is old.

Also I saw some guys making fun of WoD players. It's funny because it makes me feel old but mature at the same time because back in the day we had the same disrespectful attitude towards older roleplayers and their different games, and we never thought the next gen would make fun of us with out super advanced, deep and mature game. But essentially, EVE players would have been WoD players and WoD players would have been classic D&D players were they born one gen before*. All the same minority, niche and loyal kind of player. The WoD, with the One World By Night Project (Google it), was the tabletop and LARP version of Single-Shard servers. And it's still running today with an impressive ammount of players gathering every month for sessions that are all interconnected across the whole world. It was something amazing before MMOs to travel to another city in real life and find out that your character's deeds are known and important to players you've never met. That's also the reason why CCP was the most suited company to develop a WoD MMO. And that's why I want to believe (X-Files style) that the WoD MMO will rise from it's ashes someday.


*Original D&D players are completely unlikely the post-2000 ones. They also don't exist anymore.

I am sorry to hear it was closed down but really this just smacks of poor management decision making. CCP took EVE in a direction the playerbase didn't want whilst not addressing the issues that needed attending, CCP entered into the console race for just one platform at the end of its cycle in the most crowded genre, and to cap it all off CCP put the final nail into the coffin of one of the best and most respected RPG IPs to have ever existed.

Hopefully, you have learned from your mistakes and for your sakes you should be hoping CIG drop the ball like you have because the space genre is also starting to get crowded now. Now that's no problem for me I think competition is good but CCP really needs to start stepping up its game now.

Ok, so you wasted god knows how much time developing a game many of us were looking forward to, only to "back-burner" it years later after robbing resources from EVE's development, and then cancel it a few years after that.

So between EVE's stagnation, the abysmally dumb decision to make DUST a Peasantstation exclusive, and the cancellation of WoD, I have concluded that CCP is a failure of a company, surviving on the very little goodwill the players still have.

Good luck dying the slow death your company is destined for.

Why did you lie and say nothing was going on only a few days or so before this announcement?

"This is nothing more than a rumor with no basis of fact. Hope that's enough of a confirmation for you guys. :)" This is why we dont trust a word you say falcon

Other than that its a shame looked like it could of been half decent, but its CCP so maybe not

I still have the dice from the D&D basic box set that I got many (many) years ago.

We still exist. Who do you think owns the lawn you are trespassing on?