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N3 Video of Exploit to Gank CFC Titan

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Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#41 - 2014-04-14 19:19:23 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
and then we can count on pubbie trash crying about CCP kowtowing to the bad goons when these cheaters get punished


Oh, moar crying. I like that.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2014-04-14 19:21:20 UTC
i like how you, the npc alt n3 cheerleader, conveniently ignore when your team got its **** pushed in in B-R

that must have really made you upset heh

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

Anslo
Scope Works
#43 - 2014-04-14 19:22:58 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
and then we can count on pubbie trash crying about CCP kowtowing to the bad goons when these cheaters get punished

It's **** like this that makes people ignore the logic of this situation and simply tell you to HTFU. Who cares if it's an exploit when Grr Goons, amirite?

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#44 - 2014-04-14 19:24:42 UTC
Setting up some buckets for later collection while I go out and buy popcorn.


There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Mag's
Azn Empire
#45 - 2014-04-14 19:27:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Nicely edited out pos bowl. I hope they get a ban tbh, if found to have used that exploit.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Tesco Ergo Sum
#46 - 2014-04-14 19:32:17 UTC
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
You can always count on goon crying when they lose a ship.

It's what we all live for.


Your sentence needs shortening...

Arsine Mayhem wrote:
You can always count on goon crying when they lose a ship.


becomes

You can always count on goon crying
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#47 - 2014-04-14 19:33:39 UTC
CCP, give free Titan pls.
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#48 - 2014-04-14 19:58:41 UTC
Generic5Guy wrote:
Just pointing out the video, everyone deserves to judge themselves.

Just to cite CCP:

"Attempts to bypass the game mechanics of starbase force-fields are fully visible in server logs to CCP Games’ staff and will result in appropriate action taken against the involved user accounts as per the EVE Online Suspension and Ban Policy from here on."

So did CCP find something in the logs or no?

Who has been banned?

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays

Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#49 - 2014-04-14 20:02:20 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
and then we can count on pubbie trash crying about CCP kowtowing to the bad goons when these cheaters get punished

We're ruining your game.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays

Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2014-04-14 20:03:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Varesk
Tippia wrote:
Varesk wrote:
You cant see anything in that video that would remotely be called an exploit.
…aside from an otherwise impossible velocity on a ship that can only ever really be achieved through warp- or cyno-bumping, and which just so happens to coincide with a very well-known exploit to reach through POS shields.


Velocity can be achieved if part of the titan was sticking out of the POS shield and bumbed when Titans jumped in. Which is what happened here. No exploits no loop holes, just an unlucky Titan pilot that was to close to the edge of the POS shields.

yes you can be in the pos and part of your titan will still stick out, hence why he was bumped at over 1k.

Please dont let facts stop the crying about exploits and how CFC should never lose a Titan due to pilot error.
Tesco Ergo Sum
#51 - 2014-04-14 20:11:29 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
and then we can count on pubbie trash crying about CCP kowtowing to the bad goons when these cheaters get punished

We're ruining your game.


Absolutely brilliant!
Seraphi Nephalis
Seraphi Nephalis Corporation
#52 - 2014-04-14 20:16:59 UTC
Django Askulf wrote:


Pretty petty, and childish, if you ask me. Be a man, take the loss, go about your day.


I have to disagree. I'm still a dirty noob, so I have no stake in the discussion. But even I can see that there's enough speculation and argument on both sides from experienced and knowledgeable players that, at the very least, an investigation is warranted.

Is this the right way to go about getting such an investigation? Probably not. They should have quietly submitted their evidence to CCP. But even so, 'taking it like a man' is not the response I'd have if I suspected that an exploit was used in such an expensive battle.

"What a sad world we live in, where politeness is mistaken for weakness."  - Usagi Yojimbo

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#53 - 2014-04-14 20:32:26 UTC
Varesk wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Varesk wrote:
You cant see anything in that video that would remotely be called an exploit.
…aside from an otherwise impossible velocity on a ship that can only ever really be achieved through warp- or cyno-bumping, and which just so happens to coincide with a very well-known exploit to reach through POS shields.


Velocity can be achieved if part of the titan was sticking out of the POS shield and bumbed when Titans jumped in. Which is what happened here. No exploits no loop holes, just an unlucky Titan pilot that was to close to the edge of the POS shields.

yes you can be in the pos and part of your titan will still stick out, hence why he was bumped at over 1k.

Please dont let facts stop the crying about exploits and how CFC should never lose a Titan due to pilot error.


CCP deemed capital pos bowling using this method an exploit something like 8 years ago. Now, if CCP are now going to allow this then be sure we will also start doing this.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#54 - 2014-04-14 20:34:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Varesk wrote:
Velocity can be achieved if part of the titan was sticking out of the POS shield and bumbed when Titans jumped in.
Or, more likely, it was not sticking out and they deliberately picked an otherwise unnecessarily close point to the POS to jump to. It's especially unnecessary since doing so puts you at risk at triggering an exploit that will get you tossed out on your ears and forcing you to make up all kinds of highly unlikely explanations for what happened.

If he was sticking out, they would just have jumped in safely and DD:ed him without risking their own ships.

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Which is what happened here.
How do you know?

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No exploits no loop holes
…aside from the whole bumping a ship that was inside the POS shield bit since that's what it looks like and with pretty much nothing to suggest any kind of alternative scenario (and a fair amount of circumstances to contradict any such scenarios).

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yes you can be in the pos and part of your titan will still stick out still be bumped, hence why he was bumped at over 1k.
…and it also happens when you bump a ship that's inside the shield, so there's no ˘hence” to be drawn from the unlikely scenario you describe, but which still matches the well-known exploits. The only “hence” that really fits is “hence why it has been declared an exploit and hence why there's never a good reason for cynoing very close to POS”.

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Please dont let facts stop the
…feeble attempts at covering up a very blatant and obvious use of exploits.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#55 - 2014-04-14 20:42:55 UTC
Only CCP knows what happened for sure, but after reading some of the replies I'mma going to guess that this was petitioned and is being brought to the General Drama forums only because CCPs answer was not well received.


There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#56 - 2014-04-14 20:47:18 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Only CCP knows what happened for sure, but after reading some of the replies I'mma going to guess that this was petitioned and is being brought to the General Drama forums only because CCPs answer was not well received.




Wouldnt be the first time CCP ignored an exploit untill we brought it to the forums. FW isk exploit anyone?

We even have video evidence of this exploit in progress.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#57 - 2014-04-14 20:48:23 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Only CCP knows what happened for sure, but after reading some of the replies I'mma going to guess that this was petitioned and is being brought to the General Drama forums only because CCPs answer was not well received.

Entirely possible. It doesn't make the video (and in particular its edit) any less suspect though.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#58 - 2014-04-14 20:49:59 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Only CCP knows what happened for sure, but after reading some of the replies I'mma going to guess that this was petitioned and is being brought to the General Drama forums only because CCPs answer was not well received.




Wouldnt be the first time CCP ignored an exploit untill we brought it to the forums. FW isk exploit anyone?



True dat.

So, what was the result of the petition then?

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

voetius
Grundrisse
#59 - 2014-04-14 20:59:02 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Varesk wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Varesk wrote:
You cant see anything in that video that would remotely be called an exploit.
…aside from an otherwise impossible velocity on a ship that can only ever really be achieved through warp- or cyno-bumping, and which just so happens to coincide with a very well-known exploit to reach through POS shields.


Velocity can be achieved if part of the titan was sticking out of the POS shield and bumbed when Titans jumped in. Which is what happened here. No exploits no loop holes, just an unlucky Titan pilot that was to close to the edge of the POS shields.

yes you can be in the pos and part of your titan will still stick out, hence why he was bumped at over 1k.

Please dont let facts stop the crying about exploits and how CFC should never lose a Titan due to pilot error.


CCP deemed capital pos bowling using this method an exploit something like 8 years ago. Now, if CCP are now going to allow this then be sure we will also start doing this.


Really? It's kind of ironic then that I first learnt about POS bowling when I was in the CFC a few years back. This was at the time of the Fountain war to evict BoB. We were dicking around in Fountain and the BoB pets were all POS'ed up when Vee said on comms that he would show us how POS bowling worked, at which my little ears perked up.

He had got hold of the POS passwords through spies and we landed in the centre of a red POS. I think the idea was that we would either bump the BoB pets out or they would change the password to eject us out at high speed which would have a small chance of us colliding with the enemy ships and bumping them out at high speed.

It was all fascinating stuff :)
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#60 - 2014-04-14 21:01:04 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Only CCP knows what happened for sure, but after reading some of the replies I'mma going to guess that this was petitioned and is being brought to the General Drama forums only because CCPs answer was not well received.




Wouldnt be the first time CCP ignored an exploit untill we brought it to the forums. FW isk exploit anyone?



True dat.

So, what was the result of the petition then?



Dont even know if it has been looked into yet.