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An Announcement On The Future Of The World Of Darkness Project

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Thead Enco
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#121 - 2014-04-14 19:36:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Thead Enco
Ira Kin Mayaki wrote:
is there a little light of hope there somewhere for WoD or is it permanently cancelled and files deleted?


The only way you will prolly see it is if CCP can sell the IP to another company (ie, Blizzard, EA, Trion,etc)
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#122 - 2014-04-14 19:36:22 UTC
Ira Kin Mayaki wrote:
is there a little light of hope there somewhere for WoD or is it permanently cancelled and files deleted?

Whatever isn't tossed directly into EVE will more then likely be sold off.


To delete those files would be stupid beyond any measure, and I'd actually just walk from this game and all CCP game's. If that were the case...

...
Captain StringfellowHawk
Forsaken Reavers
#123 - 2014-04-14 19:38:44 UTC
Thead Enco wrote:
Ira Kin Mayaki wrote:
is there a little light of hope there somewhere for WoD or is it permanently cancelled and files deleted?


The only way you will prolly see it is if CCP can sell the IP to another company (ie, Blizzard, EA, Trion,etc)


Sure Arcgames/Perfectworld would probably scoop it up..
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#124 - 2014-04-14 19:45:09 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Matthias Azaharel wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/22td7a/storm_on_the_horizon_wod_appears_to_be_cancelled/cgq9los

Care to expand on this?


Yeah, I'm already being called out on reddit over it. Such is life.

Feel free to call me out on this, but out of respect for those who have been let go in Atlanta, and their families, I wasn't prepared to let rumors build over the weekend before we could speak to people, and whoever was posting information was wholly irresponsible and completely wrong in doing so.

There's a time, a place, and a proper procedure for doing stuff like this.



I feel for those people that lost their job in Atlanta, and really hope the CCP higher echelon management understands that since 2006 they are the one(s) that are responsible.

Eve online is :

A) mining simulator B) glorified chatroom C) spreadsheets online

D) CCP Games Pay to Win at skill leveling, with instant gratification

http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg

http://bit.ly/1egr4mF
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#125 - 2014-04-14 19:45:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Azami Nevinyrall
Thead Enco wrote:
Ira Kin Mayaki wrote:
is there a little light of hope there somewhere for WoD or is it permanently cancelled and files deleted?


The only way you will prolly see it is if CCP can sell the IP to another company (ie, Blizzard, EA, Trion,etc)

Perfectly explains why EA upper management "quit" EA to work at CCP...

I have 5billion ISK that says WoD will be released under EA Games: Microtransaction Everything!!!

...
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#126 - 2014-04-14 19:45:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Val'Dore wrote:
Mixu Paatelainen wrote:
The teenagers who were into Twilight who were the intended cash cow when this started grew up and moved on.

Sucks for those who lost their jobs.

I don't think you know anything about WOD.


THIS


Doc Fury wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

So it would seem for the success Chris Roberts is having with his what fourty million?


I would call separating a bunch of rubes from their $40mil very successful indeed.





Id call them rubes if a game never gets made. Until then....

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#127 - 2014-04-14 19:49:45 UTC
Came a time in WoD ONline that you just had to put a stake in it. Sucks for those who were let go because of this.

Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#128 - 2014-04-14 19:50:38 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
J3ssica Alba wrote:
So can we say this is now the future of Eve WiS ?

It's deader than ever.

The only reason why it was introduced was to




Deflect the inevitable anger EVE players would feel when it was revealed that all development on "FiS" (What we knew of till that moment as EVE) had been stopped to work on Walking in Stations.

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#129 - 2014-04-14 19:55:06 UTC
Michael Turate wrote:


I played the beta of DUST - it was awful, that's the last time I have ever thought about it. I heard about WOD and was frankly disgusted that my sub money was being used to develop that game and not the game I paid for and also that Eve was being used as a test bed for something so speculative.



Exploitative is the better word. Do you remember reading Greed Is Good? They outlined that youd be levelling up abilities in the game via real life money microtransactions. Then they revealed that there would be permadeath.

Yeah those two dont go together

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Thead Enco
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#130 - 2014-04-14 19:56:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Thead Enco
J3ssica Alba wrote:
So can we say this is now the future of Eve WiS ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrtwESnTOwY


I think for WIS to be viable again CCP needs to plan out a few things

1. Trash bin that god aweful engine that is Carbin. Look at alternatives to serve as a platform (Unreal, CryEngine3,ect)

2. Outlining what does the community want in WiS? When I think WiS Babylon5 comes to mind, give the abilty to "Agent 47" somebody in their CQ.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#131 - 2014-04-14 19:59:29 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
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I have 5billion ISK that says WoD will be released under EA Games: Microtransaction Everything!!!


You didnt read the Greed is Good thing did you? That WAS the plan

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Tesco Ergo Sum
#132 - 2014-04-14 20:00:56 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Thead Enco wrote:
Ira Kin Mayaki wrote:
is there a little light of hope there somewhere for WoD or is it permanently cancelled and files deleted?


The only way you will prolly see it is if CCP can sell the IP to another company (ie, Blizzard, EA, Trion,etc)

Perfectly explains why EA upper management "quit" EA to work at CCP...

I have 5billion ISK that says WoD will be released under EA Games: Microtransaction Everything!!!


Close but not quite...
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#133 - 2014-04-14 20:06:59 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
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I have 5billion ISK that says WoD will be released under EA Games: Microtransaction Everything!!!


You didnt read the Greed is Good thing did you? That WAS the plan

To be honest, I've never actually read it! I've heard about it.

I'd ask for a link, but both of us would be Perma-banned...

...
Havocide
Forsaken Empire
The Forlorn Empire
#134 - 2014-04-14 20:16:53 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Matthias Azaharel wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/22td7a/storm_on_the_horizon_wod_appears_to_be_cancelled/cgq9los

Care to expand on this?


Yeah, I'm already being called out on reddit over it. Such is life.

Feel free to call me out on this, but out of respect for those who have been let go in Atlanta, and their families, I wasn't prepared to let rumors build over the weekend before we could speak to people, and whoever was posting information was wholly irresponsible and completely wrong in doing so.

There's a time, a place, and a proper procedure for doing stuff like this.



People speculate all the time over such things, as I'm sure you are all too aware. Denying something so publicly, on what often are rumours was an unneeded hit to your credibility, unless ofcourse you were uninformed.

Either way I guess the main lesson is to run a tighter ship on conduct regarding internal memos, nothing is more enticing to this ocean of neckbeards than a little ccp drama.

Good luck to the Atlanta staff, im sure theyll find work quickly enough.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#135 - 2014-04-14 20:19:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
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I have 5billion ISK that says WoD will be released under EA Games: Microtransaction Everything!!!


You didnt read the Greed is Good thing did you? That WAS the plan

To be honest, I've never actually read it! I've heard about it.

I'd ask for a link, but both of us would be Perma-banned...


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-23-internal-ccp-document-scans-screenshot-gallery

Eurogamer links shouldnt get you permabanned O.o

The original plan was to require real money to unlock character traits and powers. In a game where your character could be perminantly killed

Havocide wrote:


Either way I guess the main lesson is to run a tighter ship on conduct regarding internal memos, nothing is more enticing to this ocean of neckbeards than a little ccp drama.


lol Ironically, thats what CAUSED Greed is Good. That newsletter getting out, then the internal "see what they do not listen to what they say" memo

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#136 - 2014-04-14 20:20:57 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
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I have 5billion ISK that says WoD will be released under EA Games: Microtransaction Everything!!!


You didnt read the Greed is Good thing did you? That WAS the plan

To be honest, I've never actually read it! I've heard about it.

I'd ask for a link, but both of us would be Perma-banned...


Dont have the link anymore but the original plan was to require real money to unlock character traits and powers. In a game where your character could be perminantly killed

Havocide wrote:


Either way I guess the main lesson is to run a tighter ship on conduct regarding internal memos, nothing is more enticing to this ocean of neckbeards than a little ccp drama.


lol Ironically, thats what CAUSED Greed is Good. That newsletter getting out, then the internal "see what they do not listen to what they say" memo

Ammo.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#137 - 2014-04-14 20:21:42 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

Id call them rubes if a game never gets made. Until then....


...there's Duke Nukem Forever!

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#138 - 2014-04-14 20:26:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Cygnet Lythanea
While I feel bad for the Atlanta dev team, I can't help but feel like I should point out that when CCP announced they were looking to buy White Wolf....

I very specifically posted addressing CCP what a BAD IDEA this was. Not due to 'It will take dev time from eve' but becasue 'It will never work out'. To be true to the material it would have had to be the first R (or worse) rated MMO.


I'm surprised it got axed before it went to launch,but that may just be a sign of CCP's financial issues.

Hopefully, they'll at least give us WiS and more clothes to put the already written code to work and make back at least some of the outlay.


Doc Fury wrote:

...there's Duke Nukem Forever!



Always Bet on Duke!
voetius
Grundrisse
#139 - 2014-04-14 20:26:35 UTC
Jared Lennox wrote:
DUST, I don't like you.. None of the people I know like you either.. I believe if CCP actually scrapped the idea of an outdated console game and put their effort into making WOD, they would have made much more money off of WOD MMO... Too bad.. It's a sad day both for fans and employees... Now you can make your 16 y.o audience happier with your crappy console game: DUST 514...

Yeah bro I'm mad.. I've been waiting for this game since 2006... So hell yeah I'm mad... All those promises... But who cares.. it's all about dollars isn't it..

But no, I'm not gonna throw stupid threats like : Bro I'm unsubbing.. etc.. I love EVE. Besides nobody would give a flying &@$! about it.

Anyways.. what about a kickstarter maybe? The amount of people who are willing to donate this game is enormous. Hell I've been throwing money at my monitor for 8 damn years, yet nothing happened..


When I first heard about WoD a couple of years ago I went to wikipedia to have a read up and was impressed at the depth of the game. Although I've never really liked RPGs I figured that if anyone could do justice to a game like this it would be CCP. So in a way I'm disappointed it's been canned but if CCP really had good reasons to think it was no longer viable then that's their decision to make I guess.

The idea of DUST seemed good at the start, a vast connected universe of ground players and players in space, just seems to me that it didn't work out either.

At least we still have EO.
Jassmin Joy
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#140 - 2014-04-14 20:42:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Jassmin Joy
CCP Falcon wrote:
Matthias Azaharel wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/22td7a/storm_on_the_horizon_wod_appears_to_be_cancelled/cgq9los

Care to expand on this?


Yeah, I'm already being called out on reddit over it. Such is life.

Feel free to call me out on this, but out of respect for those who have been let go in Atlanta, and their families, I wasn't prepared to let rumors build over the weekend before we could speak to people, and whoever was posting information was wholly irresponsible and completely wrong in doing so.

There's a time, a place, and a proper procedure for doing stuff like this.



Not that it effects me in any way, But handling that the way you did wasn't fair, Really don't understand why you felt the need to come out and try to defuse the situation by lying, it bit you in the arse, But that's the power of hindsight.

CCP Falcon


Not something I can comment on right now, sorry. [:) wrote:





Should have said something like that If you were going to reply, but in reality you should have just ignored it, Everyone knew what was coming and publicly stating what you did was really, unfair.