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N3 Video of Exploit to Gank CFC Titan

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PrettyMuch Always Right
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-04-14 17:57:15 UTC  |  Edited by: PrettyMuch Always Right
After doing a proper investigation, if they are found guilty, I believe CCP should do the following:

Fine every pilot 1 billion ISK
Suspend all their accounts accounts for 7 days.
Suspend their supercap accounts specifically for 30 days.

Send a strong message here. The warning was already given out.



On a different note, Grath Telkin once said (loosely paraphrased), "Everyone wants the Goons dead, but they are all too pussy to help us do something about it."

No, Grath. We just don't like your damn coalition. Most of us are cheering for the Goons against you. This video is the kind of reason why.
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-04-14 18:04:30 UTC
PrettyMuch Always Right wrote:

On a different note, Grath Telkin once said (loosely paraphrased), "Everyone wants the Goons dead, but they are all too ***** to help us do something about it."

No, Grath. We just don't like your damn coalition. Most of us are cheering for the Goons against you. This video is the kind of reason why.


I want to believe that this is some epic meta troll and that you're hilariously clever instead of hilariously out of touch
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2014-04-14 18:08:41 UTC
Django Askulf wrote:
Crazy Hooker wrote:



So you must to have been special to have seen a video on two articles that only had screen shots.


Ok, yeah. There was only talk of a video. My mistake...its not like this news happened yesterday.

As was said in the comments to petition it....which Im sure happened.

So Im guessing that didnt go as well as expected, hence the tears we have here today.

Which is basically a Riptard post, hoping to stir up enough of a mess, to get better reaction from CCP.

Pretty petty, and childish, if you ask me. Be a man, take the loss, go about your day.


So we sould all allow people to get away with and continue to use an exploit?
Solecist Project
#24 - 2014-04-14 18:15:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
I haven't watched this to the end yet...

Just posting to say that, as usual,
FC keeps repeating commands so often
that simple typing in textchat is actually more effective.


It's hilarious. Deaf people > idiot echoing himself 10x ...


Seriously, who in his right mind wants to listen to an idiot
who repeats himself over and over and over again?



Anyhow ...

In before the lock.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-04-14 18:19:20 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Django Askulf wrote:
Crazy Hooker wrote:



So you must to have been special to have seen a video on two articles that only had screen shots.


Ok, yeah. There was only talk of a video. My mistake...its not like this news happened yesterday.

As was said in the comments to petition it....which Im sure happened.

So Im guessing that didnt go as well as expected, hence the tears we have here today.

Which is basically a Riptard post, hoping to stir up enough of a mess, to get better reaction from CCP.

Pretty petty, and childish, if you ask me. Be a man, take the loss, go about your day.


So we sould all allow people to get away with and continue to use an exploit?



exactly what exploit was used? could you please go in to depth about this so called exploit? I see titans bouncing off each other. last time i checked, supers/caps do bounce off each other when they cyno in to a system.

i didnt see any of the n2 pilots go into the pos, nor breach the pos field.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2014-04-14 18:24:41 UTC
Varesk wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Django Askulf wrote:
Crazy Hooker wrote:



So you must to have been special to have seen a video on two articles that only had screen shots.


Ok, yeah. There was only talk of a video. My mistake...its not like this news happened yesterday.

As was said in the comments to petition it....which Im sure happened.

So Im guessing that didnt go as well as expected, hence the tears we have here today.

Which is basically a Riptard post, hoping to stir up enough of a mess, to get better reaction from CCP.

Pretty petty, and childish, if you ask me. Be a man, take the loss, go about your day.


So we sould all allow people to get away with and continue to use an exploit?



exactly what exploit was used? could you please go in to depth about this so called exploit? I see titans bouncing off each other. last time i checked, supers/caps do bounce off each other when they cyno in to a system.

i didnt see any of the n2 pilots go into the pos, nor breach the pos field.



And yet vees titan takes off at several times the ship possible top speed.

Welcome to POS bowling 2014.
Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-04-14 18:24:54 UTC
Varesk wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Django Askulf wrote:
Crazy Hooker wrote:



So you must to have been special to have seen a video on two articles that only had screen shots.


Ok, yeah. There was only talk of a video. My mistake...its not like this news happened yesterday.

As was said in the comments to petition it....which Im sure happened.

So Im guessing that didnt go as well as expected, hence the tears we have here today.

Which is basically a Riptard post, hoping to stir up enough of a mess, to get better reaction from CCP.

Pretty petty, and childish, if you ask me. Be a man, take the loss, go about your day.


So we sould all allow people to get away with and continue to use an exploit?



exactly what exploit was used? could you please go in to depth about this so called exploit? I see titans bouncing off each other. last time i checked, supers/caps do bounce off each other when they cyno in to a system.

i didnt see any of the n2 pilots go into the pos, nor breach the pos field.



You didnt actually see any titans bounce off each other. You didnt see any bumps at all, because that part was edited out. What you do see is a titan going 900 m/s out of a POS, which only happens when it gets bumped on somethign really big.

Also i hate you for making me defend goons.
Magnus Cortex
Ginger Industrial Solutions
#28 - 2014-04-14 18:27:10 UTC
Varesk wrote:
exactly what exploit was used? could you please go in to depth about this so called exploit? I see titans bouncing off each other. last time i checked, supers/caps do bounce off each other when they cyno in to a system.

i didnt see any of the n2 pilots go into the pos, nor breach the pos field


Not long ago CCP made a specific post about a specific action regarding bumping ships out of pos.

All anyone wants to know here is: was this a legit kill, why is the first 30 seconds or so cut from the video when they cyno in?

If they had access to the pos via spy its a legit kill, but then why bump it all the way out the other end? People just want to know the mechanics here for future reference/tactics/preparation and ofc safety.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#29 - 2014-04-14 18:33:39 UTC
Generic5Guy wrote:
Django Askulf wrote:
Isnt it a little late to be crying about this now? Unless youre just trying to milk some public attention, and get some people aboard your butthurt bandwagon.

Man up, take the loss. HTFU, and STFU.


Just pointing out the video, everyone deserves to judge themselves.

Just to cite CCP:

"Attempts to bypass the game mechanics of starbase force-fields are fully visible in server logs to CCP Games’ staff and will result in appropriate action taken against the involved user accounts as per the EVE Online Suspension and Ban Policy from here on."



Was this message approved by your Queen?
Drones acting independently are considered rogues, and usually destroyed out of hand.

Signature removed - CCP Eterne

Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-04-14 18:44:58 UTC
Magnus Cortex wrote:
Varesk wrote:
exactly what exploit was used? could you please go in to depth about this so called exploit? I see titans bouncing off each other. last time i checked, supers/caps do bounce off each other when they cyno in to a system.

i didnt see any of the n2 pilots go into the pos, nor breach the pos field


Not long ago CCP made a specific post about a specific action regarding bumping ships out of pos.

All anyone wants to know here is: was this a legit kill, why is the first 30 seconds or so cut from the video when they cyno in?

If they had access to the pos via spy its a legit kill, but then why bump it all the way out the other end? People just want to know the mechanics here for future reference/tactics/preparation and ofc safety.


A Titan can be sticking out of POS but not lockable due to the size of the ship. You cant see anything in that video that would remotely be called an exploit. Also I am guessing CCP said no to Vees reimbursement due to the fact that a try hard forum warrior posted this with no actual proof.



Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#31 - 2014-04-14 18:49:27 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
I haven't watched this to the end yet...

Just posting to say that, as usual,
FC keeps repeating commands so often
that simple typing in textchat is actually more effective.


It's hilarious. Deaf people > idiot echoing himself 10x ...


Seriously, who in his right mind wants to listen to an idiot
who repeats himself over and over and over again?



Anyhow ...

In before the lock.


Why say it once clearly, when you can say it twice quickly.
Freakdevil
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-04-14 18:50:15 UTC
Rainbow Dash wrote:
I think there's a reason they conveniently edited out the beginning of the video where they cyno'd in.


ding ding ding, we have a winner.


Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#33 - 2014-04-14 18:51:55 UTC
Death to the CFC !!!!

( I have to say that to keep up appearances )

CCP stated they log stuff. They better be right about it, cos if they''re not their credibility dies so hard exploits will rise alot. I bought that statement and I expect it to be true. So we'll see an answer by combining the information of various websites soon enough.

Two things:

1. We have the titanpilot being pro and moving on. As in, he flew what he could afford to lose. Filing a petition for a 100+ bill ship? Yeah, that makes sense even if it is really only an attempt to "scam" CCP. We're talking 100+ billion. No harm in atleast trying imho.
His underlings raising hell... not cool

2. If the "foul play" was indeed a blue AWOX-ing.... Goons need to stop "educating" their blues and stop spreading their philopsophy. Its catching on a little too well it seems.

Now if you'll excuse me. I need to get some popcorn and follow this soap :)

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#34 - 2014-04-14 18:56:33 UTC
Varesk wrote:
You cant see anything in that video that would remotely be called an exploit.
…aside from an otherwise impossible velocity on a ship that can only ever really be achieved through warp- or cyno-bumping, and which just so happens to coincide with a very well-known exploit to reach through POS shields.
Magnus Cortex
Ginger Industrial Solutions
#35 - 2014-04-14 18:57:27 UTC
Varesk wrote:
Also I am guessing CCP said no to Vees reimbursement due to the fact that a try hard forum warrior posted this with no actual proof


Today is the first day any of us have seen this video since Ncdot sat on it for a month for some odd reason Roll

In the first frame we see Vee is moving at 1138m/s and all but one of the 12 NC. titans are moving above 1000m/s with 4 moving above 2000m/s. The ~1000m/s matches the bump speed under normal circumstances, but the 2000m/s indicates something more.

The 4 titans that bumped the hardest (2000+m/s) were 3 Erebi and 1 Avatar which is the exact composition of the group that was heading opposite from Mr. Vee (1:20). These titans also appear farther from the cyno than the rest of their fleet.

The longer travel distance, direction of travel, and matching ship composition to those titans that were above 2000m/s strongly indicates that these ships were inside the pos shield and bumped the Avatar of Mr. Vee.

Why all these 1000m/s bumps if he was sticking out to begin with? OR they had access. Why not bump him like 2 meters forward and out the shield? Why bump him to the opposite side of the pos unless they didnt have a choice? Had to cyno in and cross their fingers that he would bump out the other side..
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-04-14 18:58:09 UTC
titans don't "drift" at 900 m/s jesus christ

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

Anslo
Scope Works
#37 - 2014-04-14 19:00:38 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Varesk wrote:
You cant see anything in that video that would remotely be called an exploit.
…aside from an otherwise impossible velocity on a ship that can only ever really be achieved through warp- or cyno-bumping, and which just so happens to coincide with a very well-known exploit to reach through POS shields.

This. Tippia and I rarely ever agree...on anything. However, you ain't moving a titan at 900 m/s even IF its pilot decided to be potato and try to make his titan cosplay as a kitey ship to hero solo the enemy fleet.

It just doesn't happens.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#38 - 2014-04-14 19:08:22 UTC
CCP has logs.

You will get reimbursed or you will be laughed at by the GMs.

Ether way, whining like a bee ***** accomplishes nothing.

Mr Epeen Cool
Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#39 - 2014-04-14 19:10:52 UTC
You can always count on goon crying when they lose a ship.

It's what we all live for.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2014-04-14 19:18:34 UTC
and then we can count on pubbie trash crying about CCP kowtowing to the bad goons when these cheaters get punished

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration