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An Announcement On The Future Of The World Of Darkness Project

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#101 - 2014-04-14 18:49:37 UTC
Maybe CCP could start a Kickstarter campaign if this is such a "popular" genre to dabble in.

Spending other people's money on promises is far, far safer.

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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2014-04-14 18:52:55 UTC
So can we say this is now the future of Eve WiS ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrtwESnTOwY
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CCP Falcon
#103 - 2014-04-14 18:53:18 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Random McNally wrote:

Falcon, can you comment about whether or not this will affect the table/paper version?


Also this O.o


Right now we don't have any further plans for the WoD IP.

The World of Darkness MMO is no more, however pen and paper is something I can't comment on, sorry Sad

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#104 - 2014-04-14 18:53:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Doc Fury wrote:
Maybe CCP could start a Kickstarter campaign if this is such a "popular" genre to dabble in.

Spending other people's money on promises is far, far safer.



So it would seem for the success Chris Roberts is having with his what fourty million?

CCP Falcon wrote:


Right now we don't have any further plans for the WoD IP.



You do realize that just saying that is saying its basically dead yes?

"No plans for it" means you dont intend to develop it, means RIP

You gotta know that even when youre not saying something, youre saying something.

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Captain StringfellowHawk
Forsaken Reavers
#105 - 2014-04-14 18:56:18 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Maybe CCP could start a Kickstarter campaign if this is such a "popular" genre to dabble in.

Spending other people's money on promises is far, far safer.



So it would seem for the success Chris Roberts is having with his what fourty million?


ROFL Image they kickstarted WoD and got 40 mil :P Also AFTER CCP bought White wolf, WW had a announcement on the main page about bringing the game back to its first/second ed roots and making it up to the fans. but then it vanished and out only came the new V:TM book. Kicking the M:TA/W:TA and other players to the side line. Yes, I know v:TM was its flagship.
Jared Lennox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#106 - 2014-04-14 18:56:29 UTC
DUST, I don't like you.. None of the people I know like you either.. I believe if CCP actually scrapped the idea of an outdated console game and put their effort into making WOD, they would have made much more money off of WOD MMO... Too bad.. It's a sad day both for fans and employees... Now you can make your 16 y.o audience happier with your crappy console game: DUST 514...

Yeah bro I'm mad.. I've been waiting for this game since 2006... So hell yeah I'm mad... All those promises... But who cares.. it's all about dollars isn't it..

But no, I'm not gonna throw stupid threats like : Bro I'm unsubbing.. etc.. I love EVE. Besides nobody would give a flying &@$! about it.

Anyways.. what about a kickstarter maybe? The amount of people who are willing to donate this game is enormous. Hell I've been throwing money at my monitor for 8 damn years, yet nothing happened..

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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#107 - 2014-04-14 18:59:10 UTC
Mixu Paatelainen wrote:
The teenagers who were into Twilight who were the intended cash cow when this started grew up and moved on.

Sucks for those who lost their jobs.

I don't think you know anything about WOD.

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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#108 - 2014-04-14 18:59:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Issler Dainze
I have been expecting this for some time. I also why I never expect to see walking in stations unless they replace the engine they are using for character animation. We have never seen a working demo of the tech with lots of characters in the same scene. I don't believe it will scale and that is why think it died. Too much effort into making it pretty and not enough into making it workable. You can have all the dynamic hair and cloth in the world but if it maxes out most machines in a single character captain's coffin it certainly won't work when you have your 100 corp mates wandering around in a ship gallery.

Serious props for CCP taking that challenge, even if it was a bridge too far. I can only hope what you've learned will lead to great things later. Also my thoughts are with all the folks who have been affected by the cuts.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#109 - 2014-04-14 19:01:58 UTC
Please don't fire all the avatar guys! P

We has a use for them over here ... Blink

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Captain StringfellowHawk
Forsaken Reavers
#110 - 2014-04-14 19:04:58 UTC
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#111 - 2014-04-14 19:05:20 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

So it would seem for the success Chris Roberts is having with his what fourty million?


I would call separating a bunch of rubes from their $40mil very successful indeed.



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Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#112 - 2014-04-14 19:05:38 UTC
Sitting here, reading up on this before I actually comment.

It sucks that CCP falcon is getting all this grief, but, "Welcome to Management"

I feel for the Atlanta employees here. It's a risk when working in this field. Most of them are smart and seen the boat sinking along time ago and make appropriate decisions.

This really isn't a shock to be honest. 8 years in development in the MMO market?! Whoever thought WoD would actually be released, I have a bridge to sell you in New York!

At least Dust wasn't a COMPLETE failure! Hopefully Valkyrie actually comes out for Facebook.

I'm very curious about FF this year and see what the next sinking ship will be!!!

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#113 - 2014-04-14 19:06:21 UTC
J3ssica Alba wrote:
So can we say this is now the future of Eve WiS ?

It's deader than ever.

The only reason why it was introduced was to share development between EvE and WoD.

The somewhat less then stellar functionality of CQ moved it to WoD-only until further notice.

And CCPs latest economic statement basicly said that WoD was dead.

I'll stick to my hope that CCP can salvage as much of the talent and the IP they can.

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Leorgrium Tzash
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#114 - 2014-04-14 19:12:20 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:


We know the value in the IP and are going to be reviewing the status of it in the near future. There aren't any plans for it at present.



So, do I have to wait for other 10 years to see another WoD Project? No,Thanks! Evil
Billy Hix
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#115 - 2014-04-14 19:12:24 UTC
Taken from the reddit thread

Quote:
As the spouse of an employee who was let go today due to this, I was wholly pissed off that we were all but certain this was happening Friday night and then to come here and read your denial. It did little to stop the rumors building among outsiders - it did nothing to stop the rumors among the employees and their families, since the writing was pretty clearly on the wall - and only added uncertainty and false hope into our already pretty terrible weekends. The leak sucked for you guys, but this was not the way to damage control. It was indeed cruel to those of us affected. I hope that CCP learns a few things about how to handle such events better in the future. I appreciate that it was a hard situation with the leak (though from what little I know and won't be sharing, it sounds like the dissemination of information in Atlanta was poorly thought out and executed), but this denial only served to invalidate everything we were going through this weekend.
Thead Enco
Domheimed
#116 - 2014-04-14 19:20:35 UTC
Leorgrium Tzash wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:


We know the value in the IP and are going to be reviewing the status of it in the near future. There aren't any plans for it at present.



So, do I have to wait for other 10 years to see another WoD Project? No,Thanks! Evil


It's code for "Is there anyone in market for WoD IP"
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#117 - 2014-04-14 19:22:45 UTC
Billy Hix wrote:
Taken from the reddit thread

Quote:
As the spouse of an employee who was let go today due to this, I was wholly pissed off that we were all but certain this was happening Friday night and then to come here and read your denial. It did little to stop the rumors building among outsiders - it did nothing to stop the rumors among the employees and their families, since the writing was pretty clearly on the wall - and only added uncertainty and false hope into our already pretty terrible weekends. The leak sucked for you guys, but this was not the way to damage control. It was indeed cruel to those of us affected. I hope that CCP learns a few things about how to handle such events better in the future. I appreciate that it was a hard situation with the leak (though from what little I know and won't be sharing, it sounds like the dissemination of information in Atlanta was poorly thought out and executed), but this denial only served to invalidate everything we were going through this weekend.



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Ira Kin Mayaki
Perkone
Caldari State
#118 - 2014-04-14 19:31:15 UTC
is there a little light of hope there somewhere for WoD or is it permanently cancelled and files deleted?

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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#119 - 2014-04-14 19:34:06 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Thead Enco wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
EVE is dying, DUST is dying....

I'll believe it when either one of them is actually dead.

Did you take a read Chribba's last artice in regards to new characters created in Dust? Pretty much says it all.

Ooh. Link?


I believe he's referring to this post, where Chribba, when asked, documents the extent of the new-character-creation exploit in DUST.

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Michael Turate
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2014-04-14 19:34:25 UTC
Two years ago we said two things based on what we had seen and heard:-

1) DUST would be horrible and almost certainly unsuccessful without a PC version.

2) WOD wasn't ever going to happen. The scope of the project was too massive to hit a deadline for a genre that was rapidly dwindling in mainstream popularity.

You told us we were naughty children who didn't know what the adults were up to so we couldn't possibly be right..........

Remember the Tom Hanks film BIG? The reason that Tom's character is such a huge success in the toy world is that he has the rare ability to bring a customers perspective to the out of touch executives of an adult company.

I often feel that CCP continues to fail to appreciate that customers know what they want to buy and know what they are prepared to pay for. CCP seem welded to the idea that they can create something against the advice of their customers and then sell it to those very same customers who said they didn't want it.

I played the beta of DUST - it was awful, that's the last time I have ever thought about it. I heard about WOD and was frankly disgusted that my sub money was being used to develop that game and not the game I paid for and also that Eve was being used as a test bed for something so speculative.

It's time to show the love to Eve and the Eve player base. This is the game that's done all the work, generated all the income, won the awards, built the offices, created the best game community on the planet. Why do you continue to treat such a respected and venerated title as if it is some kind of embarrassing older relative with a bladder problem?

The man said it himself, Eve is the Golden Goose, it's Eve that pays the wages. Sometimes the answers you are looking for are right at your own front door.