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Euripedies
Hot Droppin Cherry Poppers
#1 - 2014-04-13 15:22:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Euripedies
disclaimer: googled, found references to same issue in 2007 and 2009, No you cant have my stuff.

Ive discovered recently that I have no ship, such as my carrier in low sec, which I can stuff a bunch of other unpackaged ships in, and transport them to another far away place. I thought I must be wrong, surely I can just purchase a freighter to haul my lot with. It turns out Im wrong. My ships must be contracted to someone else, such as my alt (if I had one) and they can transport the package for me.

Well blow me down, I dont even know what to call such chicanery. Why would we do such a thing? Not be able to haul our own ships WTF?

So I propose we enable the hauling of ships in freighters. At one time I wanted to load my Maelstrom, Scimitar and other what-have-you into my freighter and follow incursions around, thats boring now, but I'd like to be able to do it if I wanted. So can we please have ship hauling without packaging in high sec, just like we have in low and null.

edit; and the Orca isnt the solution
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-04-13 16:07:15 UTC
orca has a fleet hangar, not sure if that's big enough for you though at 40000m3
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#3 - 2014-04-13 16:22:21 UTC  |  Edited by: FT Diomedes
It must be horrible playing this mmo without a single friend you can trust. If only you had that, or an alt, you could then give the ships to your friend, have him set up a courier contract to your destination, and away you go. That friend, or alt, could even web your big slow freighter so you could travel through space faster.

It would be a bit clunky, but you could even have an alt on a single account. Contract ships to alt. Log out main. Log in alt. Accept contract. Set up courier contract from alt to main to move ships to desired destination. Log out alt. Log in main. Accept courier contract. Profit.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Euripedies
Hot Droppin Cherry Poppers
#4 - 2014-04-13 17:39:59 UTC
Not horrible, merely inconvenient and seems an odd game mechanic. I have shipped many times, by contract courier, various fit ships, around the eve map for one reason or another. I dont think being able carry your own ships in your own freighter is that big of a game breaker. I could be wrong, not sure of all that, but I would like to haul them ships.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#5 - 2014-04-13 17:56:05 UTC
Try making a courier contract to your own corporation. Then accept the courier contract on behalf of the corporation?

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#6 - 2014-04-13 20:43:14 UTC
Stealth buff corp thieves thread. Much approve.

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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#7 - 2014-04-13 20:54:52 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
It must be horrible playing this mmo without a single friend you can trust. If only you had that, or an alt, you could then give the ships to your friend, have him set up a courier contract to your destination, and away you go. That friend, or alt, could even web your big slow freighter so you could travel through space faster.

It would be a bit clunky, but you could even have an alt on a single account. Contract ships to alt. Log out main. Log in alt. Accept contract. Set up courier contract from alt to main to move ships to desired destination. Log out alt. Log in main. Accept courier contract. Profit.

trust someone in eve? You have no idea how daft of a concept that is.

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Doomheim
#8 - 2014-04-13 21:58:35 UTC  |  Edited by: PrettyMuch Always Right
If you can transport unpackaged ships when they are wrapped, you should be able to wrap them yourself and transport them personally.

Using an alt is a work-around. Work-arounds should never be permanent.

Tgere would be game balance issues if Im not mistaken by allowing someone to transport unpackaged ships. As such it has to be as described above; they should allow you to self-wrap your own cargo.
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#9 - 2014-04-13 22:01:56 UTC
Yeah moving assembled ships would be cool!

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Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#10 - 2014-04-14 16:28:44 UTC
Agondray wrote:
FT Diomedes wrote:
It must be horrible playing this mmo without a single friend you can trust. If only you had that, or an alt, you could then give the ships to your friend, have him set up a courier contract to your destination, and away you go. That friend, or alt, could even web your big slow freighter so you could travel through space faster.

It would be a bit clunky, but you could even have an alt on a single account. Contract ships to alt. Log out main. Log in alt. Accept contract. Set up courier contract from alt to main to move ships to desired destination. Log out alt. Log in main. Accept courier contract. Profit.

trust someone in eve? You have no idea how daft of a concept that is.


I have a couple of buddies from RL who also play EVE (one's now quit) and I'd trust them to haul my **** around
I also have 5 or so corpies (out of about 40) who I'd trust to haul my stuff. Admittedly I've been playing this game with them for several years now....

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-04-14 17:41:42 UTC
Agondray wrote:

trust someone in eve? You have no idea how daft of a concept that is.


I often station trade a whole bunch of ships to corp mates for moving and then take delivery the far end when they have jumped their carrier.
The thing with eve is not "trust no one" but " trust wisely". Trust has a value in eve and is part of what makes it a good game.

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