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the gal/cal warzone problem

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Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#21 - 2014-04-12 18:45:23 UTC
Look, here's the issue;

Gallente: Lots of chiefs. Not enough Indians.
Caldari: Lots of Indians. Not enough chiefs.

Solution?

We send some of our chiefs over to you to balance the situation. As a gesture of goodwill, we will send our top two chiefs; Guiynan and Perunga. Free of charge!

So between those two and Mira, you will have very memorable fleet experiences every single day and they will be the anchor of Caldari power for years to come.

Problem solved. You're all welcome.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#22 - 2014-04-12 19:07:19 UTC
As before, both sides lack mustelids.

Grow up and embrace the otter.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#23 - 2014-04-12 19:39:41 UTC
Combatevolved wrote:
The good pilots leave out of frustration....
and join JUSTK. Combatevolved, whenever you're ready. You're not in our public channel for no reason.....
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#24 - 2014-04-12 19:49:42 UTC
Blah blah blah culture wars, blah blah blah.

It's much more clear cut down our way. I get drunk, we kill amarrs, I post otters in local. Amarrs are basically all autistic and generally rubbish.

The warzone turns like the seasons, I drink more beer and find ever cuter mustelid macros while the amarrs flail aspergically into increasing irrelevance.

My little corner of space is largely unaffected by the ones who are meant to be the enemy (#BurnHuola), we get more involved fights out of the local piratey types than the enemy. The warzone is more target rich than it's ever been but the amarr are not an organised part of that environment.

Oh they can beat their chest about their PvP ability, while farming for all they're worth (then get shown up again once the farmer horde switches sides to get more offensive plex action) but in truth we just farm them for cheap kills until one of the more grownup adversaries in the local area puts together a proper fleet then we go and respond to that instead.

Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#25 - 2014-04-12 20:02:32 UTC
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
Blah blah blah culture wars, blah blah blah.

It's much more clear cut down our way. I get drunk, we kill amarrs, I post otters in local. Amarrs are basically all autistic and generally rubbish.

The warzone turns like the seasons, I drink more beer and find ever cuter mustelid macros while the amarrs flail aspergically into increasing irrelevance.

My little corner of space is largely unaffected by the ones who are meant to be the enemy (#BurnHuola), we get more involved fights out of the local piratey types than the enemy. The warzone is more target rich than it's ever been but the amarr are not an organised part of that environment.

Oh they can beat their chest about their PvP ability, while farming for all they're worth (then get shown up again once the farmer horde switches sides to get more offensive plex action) but in truth we just farm them for cheap kills until one of the more grownup adversaries in the local area puts together a proper fleet then we go and respond to that instead.



Your attempts to get attention and/or garner a reaction have been duly noted. Thank you for your service.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#26 - 2014-04-12 20:57:41 UTC
The gallente generally have a high skill base (player not SP) than the caldari.

The gallente are more of like a few good corps that generally do their own thing but help one another out when the time is need. i.e. to push/defend a home system etc. The Caldari seem to get these power hungry dictators that want to control the ENTIRE militia.

And why would I join Galmil and fight a militia that is fragmented and of low skill when I can join Calmil and get good fights with the Gallente?

Unfortunately all long as calmil keeps getting these power hungry dictators it wlll never really amount to much. It needs a few good corps to go out and do their own thing and capture their own systems. The militia never functions as a whole unit, it just doesn't work, but a few good units working together for pushes/defense will be more effective and will give the noobs a proper guiding group to look up to/listen too. I would have a go but being in the AU TZ is very difficult to 'manage' a developing corp and lets face it when Laney rejoins would just show me up anyways Lol

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-04-12 22:18:18 UTC  |  Edited by: wilgotna
in this thread:

pro gallente pilot: i actually like the warzone lol. i can get my gangbang on and it's not even challenging. my killboard stats go up woooo

pro caldari pilot: im super pro at video games so i join the losing side to fight outnumbered. who cares about the other 99% of my militia who get gangbanged and dont enjoy it very much?

noob gallente pilot: omg this warzone is fun, i press f1 and the caldari noobs explode lol, get on my level, get rekt nerds, 420 swag yolo

noob caldari pilot: i dont post because im playing scrabble with my dog because logging into eve isnt even fun
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#28 - 2014-04-12 22:26:06 UTC
wilgotna wrote:
in this thread:

pro gallente pilot: i actually like the warzone lol. i can get my gangbang on and it's not even challenging. my killboard stats go up woooo

pro caldari pilot: im super pro at video games so i join the losing side to fight outnumbered. who cares about the other 99% of my militia who get gangbanged and dont enjoy it very much?

noob gallente pilot: omg this warzone is fun, i press f1 and the caldari noobs explode lol, get on my level, get rekt nerds, 420 swag yolo

noob caldari pilot: i dont post because im playing scrabble with my dog because logging into eve isnt even fun


Man I just almost spat my tea across my keyboard! ShockedLol

I'm curious as to which archetype I would be associated with as there wasn't an 'Incompetent wanker who gets blown up far too much for his own good' one Twisted

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-04-13 00:42:38 UTC
wilgotna wrote:
in this thread:

pro gallente pilot: i actually like the warzone lol. i can get my gangbang on and it's not even challenging. my killboard stats go up woooo

pro caldari pilot: im super pro at video games so i join the losing side to fight outnumbered. who cares about the other 99% of my militia who get gangbanged and dont enjoy it very much?

noob gallente pilot: omg this warzone is fun, i press f1 and the caldari noobs explode lol, get on my level, get rekt nerds, 420 swag yolo

noob caldari pilot: i dont post because im playing scrabble with my dog because logging into eve isnt even fun


Where were you when TEST joined Cal Mil?
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#30 - 2014-04-13 00:49:57 UTC
wilgotna wrote:
in this thread:

pro gallente pilot: i actually like the warzone lol. i can get my gangbang on and it's not even challenging. my killboard stats go up woooo

pro caldari pilot: im super pro at video games so i join the losing side to fight outnumbered. who cares about the other 99% of my militia who get gangbanged and dont enjoy it very much?

noob gallente pilot: omg this warzone is fun, i press f1 and the caldari noobs explode lol, get on my level, get rekt nerds, 420 swag yolo

noob caldari pilot: i dont post because im playing scrabble with my dog because logging into eve isnt even fun


You forgot

Ex gallente pilot: Since moving on from faction war my EVE existence is so boring that complaining about FW on the forums is more entertaining than my extra-FW activities when i log in.
JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
The Chicken Coop
#31 - 2014-04-13 02:35:44 UTC
Gee, Crosi, that almost sounds like OP.

The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts.

Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-04-13 03:42:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Andre Vauban
Veskrashen wrote:
Andre Vauban wrote:
Fixed your fix. JUSTK doesn't need more pilots.

Yeah, you're probably right. We managed to get about 10% more kills last month than your alliance with about 1/3 less pilots.

Us getting more killers to join up would just make things look even worse...


Yeah, most of our pilots are inactive at the moment. It is really hard to recruit pilots with 100M+ SPs, a jump freighter, a dread, and a carrier who prefer to fly frigs and dessies. Anyway, we've been at this for 5+ years though, we'll keep chugging along. The biggest problem is that we've lost #1 recent on BattleClinic in the last few weeks. We've held onto that #1 recent spot for almost 2 years. Screw you guys. :P

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Cromwell Savage
The Screaming Seagulls
#33 - 2014-04-13 04:43:32 UTC
Andre Vauban wrote:
Veskrashen wrote:
Andre Vauban wrote:
Fixed your fix. JUSTK doesn't need more pilots.

Yeah, you're probably right. We managed to get about 10% more kills last month than your alliance with about 1/3 less pilots.

Us getting more killers to join up would just make things look even worse...


Yeah, most of our pilots are inactive at the moment. It is really hard to recruit pilots with 100M+ SPs, a jump freighter, a dread, and a carrier who prefer to fly frigs and dessies. Anyway, we've been at this for 5+ years though, we'll keep chugging along. The biggest problem is that we've lost #1 recent on BattleClinic in the last few weeks. We've held onto that #1 recent spot for almost 2 years. Screw you guys. :P


LOL - my last 5 months combined are less than the previous month alone (the 6th)...

Sick of dealing with mostly farmers. FW has no draw to it anymore. Little desire to play...
Beardon
CRIME CRIME
#34 - 2014-04-13 05:03:21 UTC
You guys are crazy. Caldari gives no fucks about KB, we only care about love, friendship, and sharing. As long as we're together, it's all worth it. That's why you never hear about internal drama in calmil, right...? What?
wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2014-04-13 05:17:01 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:

Where were you when TEST joined Cal Mil?

I briefly joined SPDR on an alt. (because of the irony of joining SPDR when yamcha hates me)

left after i realized that TEST wasnt challenging in the least.

Crosi Wesdo wrote:

Ex gallente pilot: Since moving on from faction war my EVE existence is so boring that complaining about FW on the forums is more entertaining than my extra-FW activities when i log in.

1. not complaining. simply telling you plebs what's wrong with the warzone AND how to fix it
2. u act like i cant rejoin gal mil whenever i feel like it (i have several times and it's so boring i cant stay for more than a few days)



but really why focus on me??

let's focus on the real issues here:

the warzone is boring as hell

most gallente are cowards who only want risk averse pvp against mongoloids and farmers

the solution: gallente people need to defect
ALUCARD 1208
Digital Ghosts
Sedition.
#36 - 2014-04-13 05:32:51 UTC
dunno how you managed that man im recruiter and its been cloased for some time weve only taken 1 pilot to my knowledge and hes stil here ...... Big smile
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#37 - 2014-04-13 06:30:36 UTC
Andre Vauban wrote:
The biggest problem is that we've lost #1 recent on BattleClinic in the last few weeks. We've held onto that #1 recent spot for almost 2 years. Screw you guys. :P
He who lives by the Battleclinic Ranking dies by the Battleclinic ranking.
GavinGoodrich
Perkone
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-04-13 06:51:28 UTC
Ask any caldari FC what the biggest gripe is and it might be something along the line of "grumble grumble doctrine ships grumble grumble"

We have/had a guy named Cyrus Mierre (probably didn't spell that right) who is basically an EFT genius mixed with a zen bhudda. I envy his patience...most of us veterans can't stand the mainstream caldari attitude of "Well if he ain't bringing it, neither am I" therefore nobody brings what's needed. Of course I'm exaggerating.

I love calmil 'cause I started there, but there's a reason I've left so many times...most FC's simply do not have the patience for calmil line members to do what's needed to win fights. The cycle repeats before anything solid can be established for more than...maybe two weeks tops.

Haaaaaalp my head's on fire

Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#39 - 2014-04-13 10:57:56 UTC
There is only one problem, people setup too tough goals for them self.

"lets take a lowsec system and live in there" when they do not know anything about anything.

Then there is people like xgallentinus, he has been there almost from the beginning, and he usually knew what he can do or not, he has gathered herd of people and now **** newcomers, long time progress i guess.
GavinGoodrich
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-04-13 20:01:21 UTC
The system grind is actually pretty intriguing in FW. We have a LOT of fights over occupancy when we probably even shoudln't!

And puh-weeeeeeaze guys stop claling it sov. it's occupancy! gal/cal have sov, militias handle occupancy.

Haaaaaalp my head's on fire