Market Discussions

T2 BPOs now sell for an isk value of at least 10 years of profit, and commonly higher. In other words, T2 BPOs are massively overvalued in the market, almost to the point where they're collectors items rather than reasonable investments.'

I'd put up a WTS thread in the sell order section of the forums. Don't sell it to private offers, put up a proper auction with a long sniper rule (I'd say 24-48 hours), and a long auction duration. Bump it every day. Spam the thread in trade hubs, the BPO channel, and mailing lists if you feel like it. If anyone mails you private offers, mirror their bid in the sale thread so the bidding process stays public.

Expect 100B-200B for the BPO. If you get a totally amazing buyout offer, take it, but I stress that 95%+ of the time you're losing value by taking this route. There's a ton of isk in the game now, and countless people have trillions of isk in assets. Don't take a lowball offer. You're probably about to get a ton of bad advice from people wanting to woo you with low offers, watch out and ignore it. If you're not selling the BPO for an unreasonably and almost comically high price when compared to how much profit the BPO itself makes, you're getting a bad deal.

The future of T2 BPOs is uncertain Future patches could change market conditions or even the BPOs themselves. PLEX is a better hedge against inflation if that's all that you're looking for.

Yes, it's a bpo - unlimited runs

Thanks, that does make perfect sense - I've got an industry char that is skilled for producing them already, and i don't have that much expenses.

Just out of curiosity, how did you reach the 40b?
Cheers

30 T2 BPOs for sale..



Ive pulled the important bits. You should be looking at around those figures, regardless of meta or if the Vulture is in fashion.

40b = eight years production profits, under current market conditions. (I did the numbers largely in my head so they could be off by a factor of 1.5 or so).

But like I said, ship BPOs have huge potential to increase as any ship can become a new flavour of the month and if that happens, the per year profitability will soar. As an example, an Ishtar BPO (more of the flavour of this month) has a profitability of ~60m/day = ~25b/year. If future changes to either the game mechanics or the Vulture hull or the metagame make the Vulture good, suddenly that BPO is worth an enormous amount.

You can not say like 'its worth more because of the chance it will become worth more depending on future iterations".

Thats totaly bs and a big gamble. Would you gamble with 100b, with the chance of losing all the excessive isk when those chances are not happening? (as you claim a uncertain future profit)

And totaly agreeing with Big Lynx, the T2 bpo market had a hugh bubble due to the fact that lots of free tech isk was spend by alliances on buying high-end T2 bpo's, no matter what their price was (free isk). Since ISK does matter again, purchages declined and the market is correcting itsselve (look at the amount of prints for sale (hint: price is too high)).

About the pricing for the vulture. Shield fleets are history and those endless drake & tengu fleets wont come back anytime soon. Missles are rebalanced and armour has gotten a buff. Future populairity has to be questioned. Also each day only about 10 vultures sell in jita, its a very tiny sell market.

It is not the question how much this print is worth, the question is what other things you can do with the same amount of isk. (or what other prints can be bought that are equal or more profitable).

@ the Op, i am not handing out pricings on this public forum, but if you wish to sell it send me a mail.

Edit: To answere your question. The best way to utilize it is A keep it and produce or B sell it and buy better T2 bpo back or invest isk in somthing else thats more profitable.

It's not worth the price point alestix is asking, there's a reason the only action his bpos get is being relisted every 2weeks.

If you were to run an auction, I'd suggest a start of 100, reserve of 130 and a buyout of 150.

A damnation and claymore bpo has been on sell forums for nearly a month now. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=330557&find=unread

Get rid of this dead weight bpo and use that money to put towards something more profitable and easier profit.

Cheers, i really appreciate some background and history! It really raises a bunch of follow up questions.. Sorry for bringing this a bit into Off topic territory, but as TS, i'll take liberties :)

1, Why did alliances invest in T2 BPO's? To secure supplies of different ship types?

2. How many T2 BPO's were originally released per item? Has anyone ever achieved monopoly of a popular item (i.e owning all/ a majority of the BPO's?

3. in case of selling it, say 150B, what kind of investment would be reasonable from that? I guess PLEX ( a new thing since i played) is smart for protecting against inflation, but what other reasonable ways are there in investing nowadays? I.e, what would you do?

4. I got it to ME5, so 1.7% wasteage if i remember correctly. Is it worth researching further before selling, if that would be the avenue to go down?

Thanks again to everyone for the great advice - it's really appreciated! I just realised how much i've missed the community! the good, the bad, and the scams - you wouldn't believe some of the mails I've received... *chuckle* Just because I've been out, doesn't mean I'm an easy target! :)

Researching it further won't change its value. The value lies in it being a t2 bpo. New buyer will deal with research.

I don't think ccp ever released numbers for the T2 BPOs or if they did it was in general terms and would be hard to track. They've never updated the numbers with BPOs destroyed or impounded by ccp.

Regardless. There aren't many for ships. I'm guessing less than 10 per ship type to begin with and who knows what might still be in game.

Alliances started boarding BPOs prior to invention because it controlled the market very effectively (expanded cargo hold IIs used to go for 50 mil ! ) since invention they allowed alliances to use their money and also get better margins as well as. Heap supply of goods for themselves.