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Stop players over a certain character age from hiding in NPC corps
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Ben ReVerT
Vengance Inc.
#1 - 2014-04-11 15:19:21 UTC
Players/characters after a certain ingame age should not be allowed to "hide" in NPC corps. I think the NPC corps should be a starting ground for players but not a home for players to live and stay in for years.

Players use this to their advantage making them immune for all sorts of PvP aspects. Some use this to their advantage I.E sitting in Jita stealing loot from other players without reprecussions.

I think to fix this, their should either be two types of NPC corps.

One, that is immune from war decs, for the newer players to get a feel for the game allow them freedom to roam and do as they please.

Two, one that isnt immune from war decs, this one would be for players that are over a cetain age, say 6 months of active clone time.

Open to ideas/feedback.
Cheng Musana
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-04-11 15:25:48 UTC
Every should be aible to play as they want. What you just basically want is a free ticket to kill every pilot in highsec.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-04-11 15:32:33 UTC
Give me a war dec system that makes sense and then, MAYBE, I would consider your idea.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#4 - 2014-04-11 15:39:01 UTC
Ben ReVerT wrote:

Players use this to their advantage making them immune for all sorts of PvP aspects. Some use this to their advantage I.E sitting in Jita stealing loot from other players without reprecussions.



being in an NPC corp protects u from war decs...nothing else. and the price they pay for that is 11% tax, no outgoing decs, no corp structure, and the most annoying corp chat in the game.

they are subject to ALL other forms of PvP just like everyone else.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
#5 - 2014-04-11 16:23:17 UTC
NPC corps should war-dec each other once a year, because that would be hilarious.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#6 - 2014-04-11 16:24:24 UTC
Well, the Starting Ground are the School NPC Corps. So that's covered. The other NPC corps are there to escape the general stupidity, ignorance, bullying and other lesser aspects of the human mind. No need to take that away from the people.

Besides, are you afraid of engaging pilots in NPC corps with Duells or by tricking people into attacking you? Or you need the wardec as a safety net so that you can just shoot without thinking? That's what players abuse wardecs to their advantage. Roll

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Ix Method
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-04-11 16:41:52 UTC
Put them at war with the opposing FW corps so they have Navy NPCs protecting them and just set it going. Motsu would suddenly have 3000 in local, I'd enjoy that.

Travelling at the speed of love.
Snupe Doggur
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-04-11 16:43:28 UTC
Ben ReVerT wrote:
Players/characters after a certain ingame age should not be allowed to "hide" in NPC corps. I think the NPC corps should be a starting ground for players but not a home for players to live and stay in for years.

Players use this to their advantage making them immune for all sorts of PvP aspects. Some use this to their advantage I.E sitting in Jita stealing loot from other players without reprecussions.
Wardeccer tears = fourth best tears.
sci0gon
Kaira Innovations
#9 - 2014-04-11 16:52:38 UTC
Ben ReVerT wrote:
Players use this to their advantage making them immune for all sorts of PvP aspects. Some use this to their advantage I.E sitting in Jita stealing loot from other players without reprecussions


suiciding?
duelling?
low sec ganking?
null sec ganking?
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#10 - 2014-04-11 17:01:59 UTC
CCP has already stated quite flatly that they cannot force people out of NPC corps, nor are they willing to try.

Go read the CSM8 Winter Summit minutes. They talk about this exact issue, and none of it's even NDA'd.
stoicfaux
#11 - 2014-04-11 17:08:49 UTC
Ben ReVerT wrote:
Players use this to their advantage making them immune for all sorts of PvP aspects. Some use this to their advantage I.E sitting in Jita stealing loot from other players without reprecussions.

People in PC corps can sit in Jita stealing loot from other players without repercussions while being completely safe from PvP.

Either you need a better example/scenario to justify your idea, or you need to answer the question: why is it okay for people in player corps to sit in Jita but not for players in NPC corps?

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#12 - 2014-04-11 17:11:17 UTC
Who's "stealing loot"? If it's in a wreck, it's fair game. No stealing involved.
Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-04-11 17:32:35 UTC
Snupe Doggur wrote:
Ben ReVerT wrote:
Players/characters after a certain ingame age should not be allowed to "hide" in NPC corps. I think the NPC corps should be a starting ground for players but not a home for players to live and stay in for years.

Players use this to their advantage making them immune for all sorts of PvP aspects. Some use this to their advantage I.E sitting in Jita stealing loot from other players without reprecussions.
Wardeccer tears = fourth best tears.


Yea, I see those hisec km's posted in local, like they've accomplished something, and all I can think is how pathetic is that.

hisec km == lamer
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-04-11 18:31:08 UTC
Cheng Musana wrote:
Every should be aible to play as they want. What you just basically want is a free ticket to kill every pilot in highsec.


He already has that.
You can aggress anyone at anytime, at any location.

What he wants is ganking without concord intervention, but doesn't have the common decency to admit it.
Ben ReVerT
Vengance Inc.
#15 - 2014-04-11 21:57:57 UTC
Kitty Bear wrote:
Cheng Musana wrote:
Every should be aible to play as they want. What you just basically want is a free ticket to kill every pilot in highsec.


He already has that.
You can aggress anyone at anytime, at any location.

What he wants is ganking without concord intervention, but doesn't have the common decency to admit it.



Not at all, i freely gank people with concord shooting me, i dont care.

I want to be able to war dec people and not have them run away to a NPC corp to escape from it.
Rendiff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-04-11 23:39:14 UTC
Nam Dnilb wrote:
NPC corps should war-dec each other once a year, because that would be hilarious.



This ^
PrettyMuch Always Right
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-04-11 23:53:08 UTC
Ben ReVerT wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Cheng Musana wrote:
Every should be aible to play as they want. What you just basically want is a free ticket to kill every pilot in highsec.


He already has that.
You can aggress anyone at anytime, at any location.

What he wants is ganking without concord intervention, but doesn't have the common decency to admit it.



Not at all, i freely gank people with concord shooting me, i dont care.

I want to be able to war dec people and not have them run away to a NPC corp to escape from it.

I want to be able to play in high-sec with CONCORD still protecting me.

No one is right or wrong here, it comes down to consensus. Most players - from carebears to gankers to nullbears to elite PVPers - enjoy knowing that they have this option if **** ever hits the fan.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-04-12 00:52:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Ben ReVerT wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Cheng Musana wrote:
Every should be aible to play as they want. What you just basically want is a free ticket to kill every pilot in highsec.


He already has that.
You can aggress anyone at anytime, at any location.

What he wants is ganking without concord intervention, but doesn't have the common decency to admit it.



Not at all, i freely gank people with concord shooting me, i dont care.

I want to be able to war dec people and not have them run away to a NPC corp to escape from it.



First of all you dec the corp not the players. This is ccp's stance on this.

Based on that if you war dec has scared players to leave corp and join NPC....gratz...you won the war. You caused massive internal failscade. This is how most corps/alliances "die" in this game now. You break them until most leave or threatens to leave, leadership says screw it and the they move on to other things and leave the placeholder in the corp to keep the name.


And lastly...if you don' tike the setup find a corp that will fight back and dec it. I am sure any major alliances empire based corps would love to be decced by you. I am sure they would even undock for you and engage even. I know....its only fun when you jump a bear with 6 ships. Its not fun when the its your 6 ships jumped by 20 blobbers. Karma is a mofo when it comes full circle ain't it.
Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-04-12 20:24:17 UTC
Ben ReVerT wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Cheng Musana wrote:
Every should be aible to play as they want. What you just basically want is a free ticket to kill every pilot in highsec.


He already has that.
You can aggress anyone at anytime, at any location.

What he wants is ganking without concord intervention, but doesn't have the common decency to admit it.



Not at all, i freely gank people with concord shooting me, i dont care.

I want to be able to war dec people and not have them run away to a NPC corp to escape from it.


To pansy to come to low sec? Oh, wait, the answer is right here.
Ben ReVerT
Vengance Inc.
#20 - 2014-04-12 23:29:00 UTC
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
Ben ReVerT wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Cheng Musana wrote:
Every should be aible to play as they want. What you just basically want is a free ticket to kill every pilot in highsec.


He already has that.
You can aggress anyone at anytime, at any location.

What he wants is ganking without concord intervention, but doesn't have the common decency to admit it.



Not at all, i freely gank people with concord shooting me, i dont care.

I want to be able to war dec people and not have them run away to a NPC corp to escape from it.


To pansy to come to low sec? Oh, wait, the answer is right here.



And you expect the people you want to war dec to go to low sec?

Thats what i thought.
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