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Multi-kill DD weapons

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Sher Rayet
#1 - 2014-04-11 11:34:21 UTC
I'm wondering about Terran or Jovian superweapons.... I haven't read the novels or know about them. The Terran one is seen in this trailer.

What would the consequences be if an ancient Terran or a Jovian superweapon introduced ingame? Say technically in-game the weapon is a one-time use only, and components would be extracted from Ghost/Sleeper sites, ultra rare resources scattered in/out WH space.


what do you guys think if this would happen... good/bad? Arms race? kill fleet blobs and pos faster? aggressive expansion & hunt for new resource and tech? kill EVE?
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#2 - 2014-04-11 11:36:30 UTC
That is how the orignal DD's the titains fit were. They did 50,000 damage to every ship on the grid.

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-04-11 11:43:13 UTC
I think it'd be cool. Unfortunately min maxers would hate unique super weapons unless they specifically were given them.

Would be totally cool to transport a Jovian dark energy super weapon into the middle of VFK in a buzzard n activate it during Mittens morning mass and prayer hour. Even if it it vaporized me too.

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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-04-11 12:13:53 UTC
the old DDs while broken were alot cooler both visually and just what they did, they were essentially gigantic smart bombs.

Worthy of the name DoomsDay.

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stoicfaux
#5 - 2014-04-11 12:40:39 UTC
Sher Rayet wrote:

What would the consequences be if an ancient Terran or a Jovian superweapon introduced ingame? Say technically in-game the weapon is a one-time use only, and components would be extracted from Ghost/Sleeper sites, ultra rare resources scattered in/out WH space.

They would become as rare as Titans.

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Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-04-11 17:23:37 UTC
Isogen 5 fueled that superweapon and (according to the lore) a thukker tribe vagabond destroyed an isogen 5 cache to prevent the blood raiders from using that kind of superweapon. In the process they unknowingly destroyed most, if not all, isogen 5 in New Eden and beyond (and as a side effect started the creation of naturally occuring wormholes).

Since the old DDs were rebalanced and there is no more isogen 5 to fuel a superweapon like Jamyl Sarum's abaddon I would say that there is a slim-none chance that a multi kill DD would be added in the forseeable future.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2014-04-11 17:44:23 UTC
The consequences would be the same as with the old DDDs: fun for the player pushing the button, terminally boring for everyone else.
Berendas
Ascendant Operations
#8 - 2014-04-11 18:34:21 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
they were essentially gigantic smart bombs.

You might say they were titanic.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#9 - 2014-04-11 18:45:54 UTC
Yea I dunno if I want to go back to watched 3-5 titans wipe and entire fleet off the grid in a mater of seconds.

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Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-04-11 19:33:54 UTC
Saw "DD" weapons Shocked

...came expecting something entirley different. Big smile

Left disappointed. Cry

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Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#11 - 2014-04-11 20:19:57 UTC
Cyno doomsday was the giggles for the aggressor. And pretty easily tanked for anything larger than a cruiser. And hell as how I understood it for the server-side code if it was a large fleet getting hit.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#12 - 2014-04-11 20:24:49 UTC
I thought a DD was a destroyer

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#13 - 2014-04-11 20:25:01 UTC
CCP Introduces superweapons.

2 weeks later CFC control 30 of them.

30 seconds later 400 threads appear calling for removal of superweapons.

12 years later CCP fixes drones instead.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Lothros Andastar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-04-11 20:48:04 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
CCP Introduces superweapons.

2 weeks later CFC control 30 of them.

30 seconds later 400 threads appear calling for removal of superweapons.

12 years later CCP fixes drones instead.


They should bring back old doomsdays via remote cyno. :3
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#15 - 2014-04-11 20:52:03 UTC
Lothros Andastar wrote:


They should bring back old doomsdays via remote cyno. :3


This...is.. genius

Also, can I have T-Bombs? A Bomb you can Cyno at people?

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Sher Rayet
#16 - 2014-04-11 21:52:49 UTC
great replies, good laughs Smile I expect something more chaotic for superweapons from Jove or Terran, not a rehashed old school doomsday on Titans. Maybe... said superweapon that has system-wide affects and violently affects all on grid where deployed.

I don't think CCP would reintro the old doomsday (as Tippia said it gets rather lame).

Evidently a DoomsDay weapon for the sake and all intent of that definition....Doom. Seems under-exaggerated in EVE Roll, but doesn't have to be an instant-kill weapon. Crush them in a jovian blackhole, slowly you know? Just trying to think of ways to genocide on a humane level.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#17 - 2014-04-11 21:57:33 UTC
Sher Rayet wrote:
I'm wondering about Terran or Jovian superweapons.... I haven't read the novels or know about them. The Terran one is seen in this trailer.

What would the consequences be if an ancient Terran or a Jovian superweapon introduced ingame? Say technically in-game the weapon is a one-time use only, and components would be extracted from Ghost/Sleeper sites, ultra rare resources scattered in/out WH space.


what do you guys think if this would happen... good/bad? Arms race? kill fleet blobs and pos faster? aggressive expansion & hunt for new resource and tech? kill EVE?





That's in the novel Empyrean Age. A good read.


Once in the days of yor the DD was an AOE weapon.

But... as expected with the usual MMO neckbeardery, there was a thing called "Drive-by DD" meaning it didn't matter so much what was going on, someone would just show up and DD the grid for the lols.

So, being abused, changes were made and now the DD is more like the ray from the Death Star.


Maybe if the player base was more mature the AOE DD could come back. Would certainly make things interesting.


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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2014-04-11 22:09:37 UTC
I just want them to rename current doomsdays, because they are neither great nor very doomi-ish anymore. besides being massively nerfed in damage/application, they cant even hit anythign short of caps anymore, not really something to fear, hell, if people dint have the ability to drop as many titans as they wanted, there would be no use for the doomsday at all.


I mean, when it takes 5+ "doomsdays" to kill ONE capital, its time to start calling them anything but doomsdays
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-04-11 22:18:54 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I think it'd be cool. Unfortunately min maxers would hate unique super weapons unless they specifically were given them.

Absolutely, completely, utterly ******* false.
The min-maxers would corner production and use of these unique superweapons and any semblance of balance would cease to exist.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2014-04-11 22:22:48 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
I just want them to rename current doomsdays, because they are neither great nor very doomi-ish anymore.

You know, except for doing between two million (scrub) to three million (not scrub) damage at once.

Nariya Kentaya wrote:
besides being massively nerfed in damage/application,

Except for doing between two million and three million damage at once.

Nariya Kentaya wrote:
they cant even hit anythign short of caps anymore, not really something to fear,

Unless you have a capital.

Nariya Kentaya wrote:
hell, if people dint have the ability to drop as many titans as they wanted, there would be no use for the doomsday at all.

Drive-by doomsday is still a thing.

Nariya Kentaya wrote:
I mean, when it takes 5+ "doomsdays" to kill ONE capital, its time to start calling them anything but doomsdays

This is extremely rare. Unless a capital is specifically fit to tank that doomsday and/or the titan pilot has a low Doomsday Operation skill level it generally only takes one to destroy dreadnoughts and carriers.

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