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DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad
#141 - 2014-04-07 18:32:44 UTC
Thank you Trebor and may I never fail you.
Lucretia DeWinter
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#142 - 2014-04-07 18:54:58 UTC
Is it just me? DNSBLACK does not show up on the CCP Vote Matcher...

Shows up on the Candidates Overview just fine, but not on the Compare Candidates or Vote Match Results pages.

http://imgur.com/J4ZKa6r
DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad
#143 - 2014-04-07 23:00:51 UTC
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2033267#post2033267

Just thought I would share the latest video enjoy
Khaldem
Big Sister Exploration
#144 - 2014-04-07 23:26:16 UTC
DNSBLACK wrote:
Friends and EVE Community, I wish to announce my candidacy for the 9th Council of Stellar Management.

I am immensely grateful to my fellow EVE players and to CCP for this wonderful shared experience we call EVE, and humbly request that you, the players of EVE, support me as your voice before CCP. I look forward to championing your interests and keeping EVE as wonderful and rewarding as it has been for me for most of the last decade.

...Wall of text that I did read just choose not to repost as it says nothing relevant...

Please honor me with your vote. I will not let you down.

Your speech seems like you are not really sure what you do in eve. How high is your ship spin counter sir? Also it seems you and Kujo share a speech writer. If you want to actually tells us something about yourself other than that you strongarm labor disputes to a close please do so.

TLDR; Why should we vote for you? Your Bloc is not non partisan at all and has quite a significant foothold on all territories that are controlled by Dust players. Don't lie to the community outright sir, it doesn't make you a prime candidate it makes you a fink and a worm. Go find some honesty, I am sure there is an app you can steal for that...Cheers!
Edward Dionysos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#145 - 2014-04-08 02:02:12 UTC
Khaldem wrote:

Your speech seems like you are not really sure what you do in eve. How high is your ship spin counter sir? Also it seems you and Kujo share a speech writer. If you want to actually tells us something about yourself other than that you strongarm labor disputes to a close please do so.

TLDR; Why should we vote for you? Your Bloc is not non partisan at all and has quite a significant foothold on all territories that are controlled by Dust players. Don't lie to the community outright sir, it doesn't make you a prime candidate it makes you a fink and a worm. Go find some honesty, I am sure there is an app you can steal for that...Cheers!


Before you go criticizing him by focusing on semantics and stooping to the level of petty insults based on what you read in a wall of text think about what you actually know about the guy. Watch his videos and maybe some of the things he has linked to find out that who he is what why anyone should vote for him. (I know that you haven't because of your comments)

I believe that DNS has said before how impersonal and unshowing the walls of text in the CSM forums are. He makes the videos for you to be able to be informed about who he is as a person so use that resource instead of complaining that you don't know.



Esha Amphal
Doomheim
#146 - 2014-04-08 02:20:29 UTC
Edward Dionysos wrote:
He makes the videos for you to be able to be informed about who he is as a person so use that resource instead of complaining that you don't know.


The video blogs aren't a common practice among CSM members, so they may take a while to catch on. These kinds of things can and will change - blogs are on the descent for example. Personally I think they're an excellent idea - I just ask that a CSM member communicates with the players, I don't particularly mind how they do it. Eve players are often comfortable talking into a mic so if that's the best way to go about communication for them, record it and post it. Easy.

I know that Black doesn't use the twitters so I've been dropping his videos on there from time to time. Really appreciate how active he's been on podcasts already as well - not only Cap Stable and Legacy of a Capsuleer like most candidates campaigning but also Podside and EveRadio too. Go check 'em out when your ears are free.
Khaldem
Big Sister Exploration
#147 - 2014-04-08 12:46:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Khaldem
Edward Dionysos wrote:
Khaldem wrote:

Your speech seems like you are not really sure what you do in eve. How high is your ship spin counter sir? Also it seems you and Kujo share a speech writer. If you want to actually tells us something about yourself other than that you strongarm labor disputes to a close please do so.

TLDR; Why should we vote for you? Your Bloc is not non partisan at all and has quite a significant foothold on all territories that are controlled by Dust players. Don't lie to the community outright sir, it doesn't make you a prime candidate it makes you a fink and a worm. Go find some honesty, I am sure there is an app you can steal for that...Cheers!


Before you go criticizing him by focusing on semantics and stooping to the level of petty insults based on what you read in a wall of text think about what you actually know about the guy. Watch his videos and maybe some of the things he has linked to find out that who he is what why anyone should vote for him. (I know that you haven't because of your comments)

I believe that DNS has said before how impersonal and unshowing the walls of text in the CSM forums are. He makes the videos for you to be able to be informed about who he is as a person so use that resource instead of complaining that you don't know.

I apologize that I feel the need to avoid watching propaganda for a bloc player who feels the need to insult our intelligence by thinking we are all stupid enough not to check the accuracy of statements made in supplication for our support for his candidacy.

It's clearly one of the things that he has said to "set our minds at ease" but if he has to lie about it there must be a reason. I may find the videos sometime later today to confirm my opinion of someone who has already lied to me and you but I may not. I still think it is a petty man who needs to hide his inadequacies behind semantics in one game with the I'm not part of it here attitude. One Universe//One War.

Edit: As much as you claim to be non-partisan sir, they are only claims. I am not sure that given your association with the group of individuals who continue to have a very self serving interest in eliminating competition by bluing up with them how am I to believe that you would fight for anything I believe in? You sound like a very "nice" guy but I really don't think there is anything you could possibly say to me that would change my opinion of you, your alliance or any of your cronies based on plenty of time spent with some of the members in your alliance. Actions in game do have ramifications out of game as you say sir. Your associates do matter.

Edit: Reviewed many of the video blogs, fell asleep during the podcast, my position is still unchanged, lie to me once and you lose my respect, lie multiple times to the community about the same thing, lose my vote.
DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad
#148 - 2014-04-08 18:35:15 UTC  |  Edited by: DNSBLACK
Khaldem wrote:
Edward Dionysos wrote:
Khaldem wrote:

Your speech seems like you are not really sure what you do in eve. How high is your ship spin counter sir? Also it seems you and Kujo share a speech writer. If you want to actually tells us something about yourself other than that you strongarm labor disputes to a close please do so.

TLDR; Why should we vote for you? Your Bloc is not non partisan at all and has quite a significant foothold on all territories that are controlled by Dust players. Don't lie to the community outright sir, it doesn't make you a prime candidate it makes you a fink and a worm. Go find some honesty, I am sure there is an app you can steal for that...Cheers!


Before you go criticizing him by focusing on semantics and stooping to the level of petty insults based on what you read in a wall of text think about what you actually know about the guy. Watch his videos and maybe some of the things he has linked to find out that who he is what why anyone should vote for him. (I know that you haven't because of your comments)

I believe that DNS has said before how impersonal and unshowing the walls of text in the CSM forums are. He makes the videos for you to be able to be informed about who he is as a person so use that resource instead of complaining that you don't know.

I apologize that I feel the need to avoid watching propaganda for a bloc player who feels the need to insult our intelligence by thinking we are all stupid enough not to check the accuracy of statements made in supplication for our support for his candidacy.

It's clearly one of the things that he has said to "set our minds at ease" but if he has to lie about it there must be a reason. I may find the videos sometime later today to confirm my opinion of someone who has already lied to me and you but I may not. I still think it is a petty man who needs to hide his inadequacies behind semantics in one game with the I'm not part of it here attitude. One Universe//One War.




Edit: As much as you claim to be non-partisan sir, they are only claims. I am not sure that given your association with the group of individuals who continue to have a very self serving interest in eliminating competition by bluing up with them how am I to believe that you would fight for anything I believe in? You sound like a very "nice" guy but I really don't think there is anything you could possibly say to me that would change my opinion of you, your alliance or any of your cronies based on plenty of time spent with some of the members in your alliance. Actions in game do have ramifications out of game as you say sir. Your associates do matter.

Edit: Reviewed many of the video blogs, fell asleep during the podcast, my position is still unchanged, lie to me once and you lose my respect, lie multiple times to the community about the same thing, lose my vote.


I am still not clear on what I lied to you about. I want to address this more then you can imagine so please help me understand the break in communication you feel is a lie.
Lucretia DeWinter
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#149 - 2014-04-08 21:42:15 UTC
Khaldem wrote:
Edward Dionysos wrote:
Khaldem wrote:

Your speech seems like you are not really sure what you do in eve. How high is your ship spin counter sir? Also it seems you and Kujo share a speech writer. If you want to actually tells us something about yourself other than that you strongarm labor disputes to a close please do so.

TLDR; Why should we vote for you? Your Bloc is not non partisan at all and has quite a significant foothold on all territories that are controlled by Dust players. Don't lie to the community outright sir, it doesn't make you a prime candidate it makes you a fink and a worm. Go find some honesty, I am sure there is an app you can steal for that...Cheers!


Before you go criticizing him by focusing on semantics and stooping to the level of petty insults based on what you read in a wall of text think about what you actually know about the guy. Watch his videos and maybe some of the things he has linked to find out that who he is what why anyone should vote for him. (I know that you haven't because of your comments)

I believe that DNS has said before how impersonal and unshowing the walls of text in the CSM forums are. He makes the videos for you to be able to be informed about who he is as a person so use that resource instead of complaining that you don't know.

I apologize that I feel the need to avoid watching propaganda for a bloc player who feels the need to insult our intelligence by thinking we are all stupid enough not to check the accuracy of statements made in supplication for our support for his candidacy.

It's clearly one of the things that he has said to "set our minds at ease" but if he has to lie about it there must be a reason. I may find the videos sometime later today to confirm my opinion of someone who has already lied to me and you but I may not. I still think it is a petty man who needs to hide his inadequacies behind semantics in one game with the I'm not part of it here attitude. One Universe//One War.

Edit: As much as you claim to be non-partisan sir, they are only claims. I am not sure that given your association with the group of individuals who continue to have a very self serving interest in eliminating competition by bluing up with them how am I to believe that you would fight for anything I believe in? You sound like a very "nice" guy but I really don't think there is anything you could possibly say to me that would change my opinion of you, your alliance or any of your cronies based on plenty of time spent with some of the members in your alliance. Actions in game do have ramifications out of game as you say sir. Your associates do matter.

Edit: Reviewed many of the video blogs, fell asleep during the podcast, my position is still unchanged, lie to me once and you lose my respect, lie multiple times to the community about the same thing, lose my vote.


What?

What crack are you smoking? Look, just because following all this, the links in DUST514 came good and nobody was baller enough to put a stop to DNS domination of Planetary Conquest, is nobody's fault but yours and doesn't make DNSBLACK his own bloc.

CSM Thread: Posted: 2014.03.03 21:40
Nyain San (first DUST514 Corp to join DNS): 2014-03-22 21:06:00

So yeah, you just want to vent your whinge that you can't fight in DUST514 in PC anymore because the mean ole DNS will stomp you?

That's transparent, incorrect and isn't stopping Genral Tso's, What The French or Calamitous Intent from stepping up and kicking our asses.

You're wrong and you should feel bad. And it hurts any position on (justified) concerns over alliance domination of PC when whiny accusations are the level of rebuttal.
Khaldem
Big Sister Exploration
#150 - 2014-04-08 22:49:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Khaldem
Lucretia DeWinter wrote:
Khaldem wrote:
Edward Dionysos wrote:
Khaldem wrote:

Your speech seems like you are not really sure what you do in eve. How high is your ship spin counter sir? Also it seems you and Kujo share a speech writer. If you want to actually tells us something about yourself other than that you strongarm labor disputes to a close please do so.

TLDR; Why should we vote for you? Your Bloc is not non partisan at all and has quite a significant foothold on all territories that are controlled by Dust players. Don't lie to the community outright sir, it doesn't make you a prime candidate it makes you a fink and a worm. Go find some honesty, I am sure there is an app you can steal for that...Cheers!


Before you go criticizing him by focusing on semantics and stooping to the level of petty insults based on what you read in a wall of text think about what you actually know about the guy. Watch his videos and maybe some of the things he has linked to find out that who he is what why anyone should vote for him. (I know that you haven't because of your comments)

I believe that DNS has said before how impersonal and unshowing the walls of text in the CSM forums are. He makes the videos for you to be able to be informed about who he is as a person so use that resource instead of complaining that you don't know.

I apologize that I feel the need to avoid watching propaganda for a bloc player who feels the need to insult our intelligence by thinking we are all stupid enough not to check the accuracy of statements made in supplication for our support for his candidacy.

It's clearly one of the things that he has said to "set our minds at ease" but if he has to lie about it there must be a reason. I may find the videos sometime later today to confirm my opinion of someone who has already lied to me and you but I may not. I still think it is a petty man who needs to hide his inadequacies behind semantics in one game with the I'm not part of it here attitude. One Universe//One War.

Edit: As much as you claim to be non-partisan sir, they are only claims. I am not sure that given your association with the group of individuals who continue to have a very self serving interest in eliminating competition by bluing up with them how am I to believe that you would fight for anything I believe in? You sound like a very "nice" guy but I really don't think there is anything you could possibly say to me that would change my opinion of you, your alliance or any of your cronies based on plenty of time spent with some of the members in your alliance. Actions in game do have ramifications out of game as you say sir. Your associates do matter.

Edit: Reviewed many of the video blogs, fell asleep during the podcast, my position is still unchanged, lie to me once and you lose my respect, lie multiple times to the community about the same thing, lose my vote.


What?

What crack are you smoking? Look, just because following all this, the links in DUST514 came good and nobody was baller enough to put a stop to DNS domination of Planetary Conquest, is nobody's fault but yours and doesn't make DNSBLACK his own bloc.

CSM Thread: Posted: 2014.03.03 21:40
Nyain San (first DUST514 Corp to join DNS): 2014-03-22 21:06:00

So yeah, you just want to vent your whinge that you can't fight in DUST514 in PC anymore because the mean ole DNS will stomp you?

That's transparent, incorrect and isn't stopping Genral Tso's, What The French or Calamitous Intent from stepping up and kicking our asses.

You're wrong and you should feel bad. And it hurts any position on (justified) concerns over alliance domination of PC when whiny accusations are the level of rebuttal.

Huh? You really do seem to be saying something for someone who clearly doesn't know what to say about the accusation I am making. I believe it was best said "if we can't beat em join em" by Djinn Kujo, a member of Black's alliance. Now it is really irrelevant what emotional feelings I have but it is relevant that he has said that he isn't part of a bloc of power. This is a very real fact whatever your "feelings" are on the subject it is a lie. Why doesn't Bob rise up and smash Goonswarm you may as well say. Does it look like I am part of any of those alliances? Which rock did you crawl out from under in order to answer an accusation against this man's integrity when he himself has no answer for it?

Edit: Sorry, forgot my smoking gun earlier... Molden Heath Ownership Chart courtesy of www.dustcharts.com

Edit 2: If honest questions about a candidate's integrity hurt the discussion about how the Dust Eve connection is broken I might be concerned. In this case I believe it is fair to say it hurts your boyo's position more than the position of the discussions about what is wrong with PC, especially if he has nothing to say.
Lucretia DeWinter
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#151 - 2014-04-09 00:58:06 UTC
Khaldem wrote:

Huh? You really do seem to be saying something for someone who clearly doesn't know what to say about the accusation I am making. I believe it was best said "if we can't beat em join em" by Djinn Kujo, a member of Black's alliance. Now it is really irrelevant what emotional feelings I have but it is relevant that he has said that he isn't part of a bloc of power. This is a very real fact whatever your "feelings" are on the subject it is a lie. Why doesn't Bob rise up and smash Goonswarm you may as well say. Does it look like I am part of any of those alliances? Which rock did you crawl out from under in order to answer an accusation against this man's integrity when he himself has no answer for it?

Edit: Sorry, forgot my smoking gun earlier... Molden Heath Ownership Chart courtesy of www.dustcharts.com

Edit 2: If honest questions about a candidate's integrity hurt the discussion about how the Dust Eve connection is broken I might be concerned. In this case I believe it is fair to say it hurts your boyo's position more than the position of the discussions about what is wrong with PC, especially if he has nothing to say.


DNSBLACK has been in EVE a long time, and pre-dates DUST by a long time too. DNS is really not a bloc group having been friendly-with/no-longer-friendly-with/shot-at/shot-by pretty much everybody and anybody at one time or another.

DNS has only gotten involved in DUST recently - with DUST corps only joining DNS a full 3 weeks after the statement that you take issue with was posted. In fact, less time has passed since DUST corps joined DNS than passed between BLACK's "non-bloc" statement and your post calling him a liar.

DNSBLACK is a non-bloc EVE character. Campaigning for election to the CSM - an EVE council, for EVE. That DNSBLACK is interested in developing how EVE and DUST link together and that blue donuts, force projection and all those problems The War Room accuses DNS of personifying are the very issues that DNSBLACK and others campaigning for CSM have identified that they feel need work and plan to raise with CCP as CSM members.

If you're going to come around calling somebody a liar to their face (as it were), you better be able to prove it. When DNSBLACK said "non-bloc" it was true then and remains true in reference to EVE. That DNS Alliance became a bloc overnight in DUST Planetary Conquest because Molden Heath was rolled up in a week is not DNSBLACK's fault.


There's plenty of further discussion on the issues in PC, blue donuts and Molden Heath in the DUST forums. Cross posting whiny accusations disguised as a political integrity question is a poor troll. Especially when you don't even have the decency to take the time to read, watch or listen to your target's position.
Khaldem
Big Sister Exploration
#152 - 2014-04-09 01:14:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Khaldem
Lucretia DeWinter wrote:
Khaldem wrote:

Huh? You really do seem to be saying something for someone who clearly doesn't know what to say about the accusation I am making. I believe it was best said "if we can't beat em join em" by Djinn Kujo, a member of Black's alliance. Now it is really irrelevant what emotional feelings I have but it is relevant that he has said that he isn't part of a bloc of power. This is a very real fact whatever your "feelings" are on the subject it is a lie. Why doesn't Bob rise up and smash Goonswarm you may as well say. Does it look like I am part of any of those alliances? Which rock did you crawl out from under in order to answer an accusation against this man's integrity when he himself has no answer for it?

Edit: Sorry, forgot my smoking gun earlier... Molden Heath Ownership Chart courtesy of www.dustcharts.com

Edit 2: If honest questions about a candidate's integrity hurt the discussion about how the Dust Eve connection is broken I might be concerned. In this case I believe it is fair to say it hurts your boyo's position more than the position of the discussions about what is wrong with PC, especially if he has nothing to say.


DNSBLACK has been in EVE a long time, and pre-dates DUST by a long time too. DNS is really not a bloc group having been friendly-with/no-longer-friendly-with/shot-at/shot-by pretty much everybody and anybody at one time or another.

DNS has only gotten involved in DUST recently - with DUST corps only joining DNS a full 3 weeks after the statement that you take issue with was posted. In fact, less time has passed since DUST corps joined DNS than passed between BLACK's "non-bloc" statement and your post calling him a liar.

DNSBLACK is a non-bloc EVE character. Campaigning for election to the CSM - an EVE council, for EVE. That DNSBLACK is interested in developing how EVE and DUST link together and that blue donuts, force projection and all those problems The War Room accuses DNS of personifying are the very issues that DNSBLACK and others campaigning for CSM have identified that they feel need work and plan to raise with CCP as CSM members.

If you're going to come around calling somebody a liar to their face (as it were), you better be able to prove it. When DNSBLACK said "non-bloc" it was true then and remains true in reference to EVE. That DNS Alliance became a bloc overnight in DUST Planetary Conquest because Molden Heath was rolled up in a week is not DNSBLACK's fault.


There's plenty of further discussion on the issues in PC, blue donuts and Molden Heath in the DUST forums. Cross posting whiny accusations disguised as a political integrity question is a poor troll. Especially when you don't even have the decency to take the time to read, watch or listen to your target's position.

Are you his spokesperson? Let him answer himself. BTW if he were just campaigning in Eve I would likely not have issues so much with his claims towards non-partisanism unfortunately he is campaigning in Dust as well as Eve and as such is attempting to be partisan to whatever Dust interests he is attempting to cater to. Given his present recent company I would say he is biased in the extreme.
Edward Dionysos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#153 - 2014-04-09 04:19:34 UTC
I think we all know why Khaldem is actually angry....

DNSBlack has obviously been actively avoiding a deep and meaningful issue that delves deep into the character of a CSM candidate... THE one and only how many hours have you mined recently post found here: here

TELL US DNS! You can no longer deny the countless hours you spend shooting rocks to manipulate the entire EVE economy and drive PLEX prices ever higher!

How deep does this conspiracy run?!?! Shocked Do the Goons protect you because of a secret pact that you formed with theMittani for the wizard hat? Is that why you gave it away? YOU CAN'T RUN ANYMORE DNS








AttentionDisclaimer:Attention None of these statements are true and do not equate even remotely to anything such as a representation of DNS or DNSBlack and have been fabricated solely for the purpose of humourous dramatization by Edward Dionysos. Edward Dionysos is a seperate entity completely unrelated to DNS, DNSBlack or any of his Affiliate's.


Okay honestly I hope this post shows you how you are acting Khaldem
Khaldem
Big Sister Exploration
#154 - 2014-04-09 04:45:27 UTC
Edward Dionysos wrote:
I think we all know why Khaldem is actually angry....

DNSBlack has obviously been actively avoiding a deep and meaningful issue that delves deep into the character of a CSM candidate... THE one and only how many hours have you mined recently post found here: here

TELL US DNS! You can no longer deny the countless hours you spend shooting rocks to manipulate the entire EVE economy and drive PLEX prices ever higher!

How deep does this conspiracy run?!?! Shocked Do the Goons protect you because of a secret pact that you formed with theMittani for the wizard hat? Is that why you gave it away? YOU CAN'T RUN ANYMORE DNS








AttentionDisclaimer:Attention None of these statements are true and do not equate even remotely to anything such as a representation of DNS or DNSBlack and have been fabricated solely for the purpose of humourous dramatization by Edward Dionysos. Edward Dionysos is a seperate entity completely unrelated to DNS, DNSBlack or any of his Affiliate's.


Okay honestly I hope this post shows you how you are acting Khaldem
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Mittens willed me his hat a long time ago, hold on let me find that napkin with his signature on it.
Tcar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#155 - 2014-04-09 05:51:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tcar
Just for your edification and perhaps education, let me give you the definition of "bloc" in the EVE/CSM sense:

bloc noun \ˈbläk\
: a group of people or countries that are connected by a treaty or agreement or by common goals

1
a : a temporary combination of parties in a legislative assembly
b : a group of legislators who act together for some common purpose irrespective of party lines
2
a : a combination of persons, groups, or nations forming a unit with a common interest or purpose
b : a group of nations united by treaty or agreement for mutual support or joint action

2B would be the use of the word in EVE a it relates to the CSM election i.e. a corp or alliance part of a null sov coalition

By your use of the term it would be any corporation or alliance. Seriously, and I do mean this seriously. .do you understand the difference between an alliance and a coalition of alliances like the CFC or N3?

Oh, and lastly and just to be a pedant. DNS the alliance did not get involved in PC or take on a DUST corporation until 3/21/14, nearly three weeks after your being 'lied to" about nt being a bloc candidate, which has already been dispensed with by the power of Merriam Webster.

Khaldem wrote:

Mittens willed me his hat a long time ago, hold on let me find that napkin with his signature on it.


That's funny because that wasn't actually Mittani's hat. . .
Khaldem
Big Sister Exploration
#156 - 2014-04-09 06:39:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Khaldem
Tcar wrote:
Just for your edification and perhaps education, let me give you the definition of "bloc" in the EVE/CSM sense:

bloc noun \ˈbläk\
: a group of people or countries that are connected by a treaty or agreement or by common goals

1
a : a temporary combination of parties in a legislative assembly
b : a group of legislators who act together for some common purpose irrespective of party lines
2
a : a combination of persons, groups, or nations forming a unit with a common interest or purpose
b : a group of nations united by treaty or agreement for mutual support or joint action

2B would be the use of the word in EVE a it relates to the CSM election i.e. a corp or alliance part of a null sov coalition

By your use of the term it would be any corporation or alliance. Seriously, and I do mean this seriously. .do you understand the difference between an alliance and a coalition of alliances like the CFC or N3?

Oh, and lastly and just to be a pedant. DNS the alliance did not get involved in PC or take on a DUST corporation until 3/21/14, nearly three weeks after your being 'lied to" about nt being a bloc candidate, which has already been dispensed with by the power of Merriam Webster.

Khaldem wrote:

Mittens willed me his hat a long time ago, hold on let me find that napkin with his signature on it.


That's funny because that wasn't actually Mittani's hat. . .

It's even more funny because if anyone really cared how much the CSM candidates mined we wouldn't be discussing how long DNSBLACK's son has been playing DUST514 in AE's corp or how much actual vested interest he really has in the Bloc of power formed in just the last month, on the Eve (tm) of fanfest. He really did lie to the public, it's really too late to deny it now. A father protecting his son? Yeah I get it, a father justifying what his son likes to do... here you go son Kujo likes COD2 too, oh he said you could buddy up with him in AE too. Hold on I'll form an alliance and we can all be friends together. Video evidence is always appreciated right? More to come...

EDIT: By Black's own admission his son has been part of AE for quite some time, with the rapidity of the territory turnover (overnight) DNS allies went from a 30% hold to 96%, indicating there was involvement way prior to any alliance documentation. No one "gets involved" in something and just magically is Ruler over All because of a single night of talks, this has been a background movement of corps and alliance assets from the building of the Rebel Alliance to the movement of all Rebel Alliance assets to DNS Alliance. It rivals the movements of Null Sec sov corps territory movement from one alliance to another.

Saying that DNS was not involved prior to this happening is a joke right?
Lucretia DeWinter
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#157 - 2014-04-09 09:53:32 UTC
Khaldem wrote:
He really did lie to the public, it's really too late to deny it now.


You've been proven to be wrong. Both in context and concept.

I get it. I do. There are plenty of upset people that believe (wrongly IMO) that what has happened in DUST PC is A Bad Thing. That DNS is evil and exists solely to take your candy and kick your puppy.

As usual for forums and the internet, much of the 'discussion' boils down to personal attacks and fabrications and it is this that I take issue with. Coming into somebody's thread and throwing around accusations requires that people call you out on it. That's why I'm saying you're full of it and not because I'm some shill or spokesperson.

DNSBLACK's integrity in my experience (which is direct and extensive) is impeccable, both in EVE and IRL.


I hope ISD are watching.
Khaldem
Big Sister Exploration
#158 - 2014-04-09 13:38:57 UTC
Lucretia DeWinter wrote:
Khaldem wrote:
He really did lie to the public, it's really too late to deny it now.


You've been proven to be wrong. Both in context and concept.

I get it. I do. There are plenty of upset people that believe (wrongly IMO) that what has happened in DUST PC is A Bad Thing. That DNS is evil and exists solely to take your candy and kick your puppy.

As usual for forums and the internet, much of the 'discussion' boils down to personal attacks and fabrications and it is this that I take issue with. Coming into somebody's thread and throwing around accusations requires that people call you out on it. That's why I'm saying you're full of it and not because I'm some shill or spokesperson.

DNSBLACK's integrity in my experience (which is direct and extensive) is impeccable, both in EVE and IRL.


I hope ISD are watching.



Dewinter, I would really like to believe that pirates can count so I will say this in plain english 100 - 96% = 4% right? That 4% of the molden heath Planetary Districts are not held by your alliance. Now as far as based on a percentage of Null Held by a single Alliance, there are no other alliances that can compare the percentage of territory held by any one group. This clearly constitutes a bloc of power, don't try to sugar coat it--the reality is disturbing. Essentially it is only relevant to those players involved in Dust in any way but trying to sweep it under the rug saying it didn't happen means there is something to be ashamed of. All your devious natures are quite fine and good in game but have no place in representing anyone's interests to CCP.
Lucretia DeWinter
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#159 - 2014-04-09 14:31:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucretia DeWinter
Khaldem wrote:

Dewinter, I would really like to believe that pirates can count so I will say this in plain english 100 - 96% = 4% right? That 4% of the molden heath Planetary Districts are not held by your alliance. Now as far as based on a percentage of Null Held by a single Alliance, there are no other alliances that can compare the percentage of territory held by any one group. This clearly constitutes a bloc of power, don't try to sugar coat it--the reality is disturbing. Essentially it is only relevant to those players involved in Dust in any way but trying to sweep it under the rug saying it didn't happen means there is something to be ashamed of. All your devious natures are quite fine and good in game but have no place in representing anyone's interests to CCP.


That's a flawed analogy.

PC that takes place on select system planets in a single region of New Eden is not the same as the bloc powers that vie and control 0.0 space.

The correct comparison is Faction Warfare. Can you guess what happens in FW? Players kick the living snot out of the opposition until they stop twitching and they've conquered all available systems. All of them. For reference, take a browse through the Warfare & Tactics forum or search for Fall Of Innia e.g. http://themittani.com/features/fall-innia

Even then, FW comprises hundreds of systems - and notably includes DUST in any system with Temperate planets - and is vastly grander in scale than an alliance that got organised together with some higly skilled mercs who stopped fighting everyone elses battles for them.

Additionally, not a pirate thank you. You'll find that there are many CSM hopefuls who are way beyond 'devious natured.'

Nor am I ashamed. I am not sweeping anything under any rugs. I am standing up right here holding it up in the light and proving that you're wrong.

The issues in DUST PC echoed with issues in EVE FW are irrelevant to this thread.

What is relevant is anyone casting baseless accusations based on an axe to grind over FPS butt-hurt and demonstrable factual inaccuracies.

You may personally consider DNS Alliance a bloc so far as DUST PC in Molden Heath goes, fair enough, but that doesn't mean you get to change temporal physics, language definitions or defame the integrity of people like DNSBLACK unchallenged.

If you actually looked, you'd be aware that people like DNSBLACK is the principle advocate for the human element in EVE and the relationships, connections, enjoyment and gameplay we can all share. And that maybe he's the one with the experience, knowledge and skills to present how best to improve and change these things for everyone's betterment.
Khaldem
Big Sister Exploration
#160 - 2014-04-09 14:43:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Khaldem
Lucretia DeWinter wrote:
Khaldem wrote:

Dewinter, I would really like to believe that pirates can count so I will say this in plain english 100 - 96% = 4% right? That 4% of the molden heath Planetary Districts are not held by your alliance. Now as far as based on a percentage of Null Held by a single Alliance, there are no other alliances that can compare the percentage of territory held by any one group. This clearly constitutes a bloc of power, don't try to sugar coat it--the reality is disturbing. Essentially it is only relevant to those players involved in Dust in any way but trying to sweep it under the rug saying it didn't happen means there is something to be ashamed of. All your devious natures are quite fine and good in game but have no place in representing anyone's interests to CCP.


That's a flawed analogy.

PC that takes place on select system planets in a single region of New Eden is not the same as the bloc powers that vie and control 0.0 space.

The correct comparison is Faction Warfare. Can you guess what happens in FW? Players kick the living snot out of the opposition until they stop twitching and they've conquered all available systems. All of them. For reference, take a browse through the Warfare & Tactics forum or search for Fall Of Innia e.g. http://themittani.com/features/fall-innia

Even then, FW comprises hundreds of systems - and notably includes DUST in any system with Temperate planets - and is vastly grander in scale than an alliance that got organised together with some higly skilled mercs who stopped fighting everyone elses battles for them.

Additionally, not a pirate thank you. You'll find that there are many CSM hopefuls who are way beyond 'devious natured.'

Nor am I ashamed. I am not sweeping anything under any rugs. I am standing up right here holding it up in the light and proving that you're wrong.

The issues in DUST PC echoed with issues in EVE FW are irrelevant to this thread.

What is relevant is anyone casting baseless accusations based on an axe to grind over FPS butt-hurt and demonstrable factual inaccuracies.

You may personally consider DNS Alliance a bloc so far as DUST PC in Molden Heath goes, fair enough, but that doesn't mean you get to change temporal physics, language definitions or defame the integrity of people like DNSBLACK unchallenged.

If you actually looked, you'd be aware that people like DNSBLACK is the principle advocate for the human element in EVE and the relationships, connections, enjoyment and gameplay we can all share. And that maybe he's the one with the experience, knowledge and skills to present how best to improve and change these things for everyone's betterment.

It is not a flawed analogy, considering the nature of Dust, lobby based and the only team deploy available being PC combat, I would say it is essentially all of Dust being controlled atm by your party. It's not like EVE, but you know that you just want to argue more.

DSNBLACK's position on Dust is let Kujo make and dictate suggestions to CCP. He has reportedly said that he listens to what the Dust bunnies want but in all reality his alliance has 1% of dust players in it. His is the only alliance that wants a "league" not all of the Dusters. This is not a troll and as CCP has pointed out, this is One Universe//One War. In any case, DNSBLACK good luck, may the best GOON win! (not an endorsement of this candidate)