Warfare & Tactics

Not true. EVE has always been about risk versus reward (or risk for ISK, as it were), and I don't believe that they want to have a system where people are rewarded for safe repetitive tasks.

This may be a bit naive to say, but I that if the community can come up with a viable system that fits three risk versus reward model, then CCP will be happy to implement it

There is risk to lose your ship while plexing and plexers do lose lot of ships daily. Thing is , not many want to die on purpose, they will excape if they can with stabs or not, they also could fight for plex but when you go in with your FOTM coocie cutter fit they do not have any change no matter if they fit pvp fit because they are just newish chars.

Idea about having quality pvp against farmers is bit tricky, farmer is waiting in plex , someone who want to kill him checks out his ship, kb stats etc... and then decides if he could take farmer down or not. Usually when he decides to come in and kill farmer he is almost sure he can kill the farmer so why would farmer stay in plex, only reason is that farmer did same checks and came to conclusion that killer who is coming in can be beaten, so only way to get pvp is that someone misjudge enemy skills and fits.

So if you want to kill farmer you have to look like easy prey. So you have to gimp you ship and take something that looks not so scary, maybe even use your own low skill alt to get initial tackle.

It is about tactics not about risk / rewards.

If we are looking about fault from current system i would say it is poor reward from defensive plexing on low contested systems, but if CCP boost that will it end whole fw farming and systems become empty again.

This is the one quote that sums up the entire FW is broken argument from the pvp'ing groups.

However this is eve and to be perfectly honest if you want just a pvp environment then you should go play an arena type of game.
One of the fundamental aspects of eve that is if you lose you actually lose something. Therefore making isk the biggest driver for everything in eve.

There is farming in every single aspect of eve and FW was no different, even before inferno, all that changed was it became known and simple of new toons to do it. TBH it was just as easy previously if you knew how to do it etc.

FW is better than it was. and the biggest problem IMO is that there are a lot of bitter vets out there that would effectively ruin FW with all their 'fixes' then they would just whine how no one does FW anymore.

then do something else, problem solved.

I never really got this mentality to be honest. Granted, losing a home system that you're invested in sucks, as you guys have demonstrated recently, but it's also what makes it interesting and fun. If there was nothing on the line, then there would be a hell of a lot less pilots trying to defend it resulting in way less epic battle. We risk our stuff by putting it in space, and it gives us reason to defend it. We're here for pvp, so this is a long term win, even if it means we get locked out for a while. Living in FW space makes it matter, and it gives better access to pvp. Who the **** wants to go 4 jumps to just get into the WZ, let alone find fights?

Glad I live in cal/gal space where stuff happens and people care.

Defending Eha against the rampaging hordes of TESTies, day in and day out for weeks, was one of the most memorable times of my EVE career. You hit the nail on the head: investing yourself and your corp in a system, inside the warzone, makes all the difference in the world.

To FW pilots everywhere: if you're here for the PvP, then sack up and claim a system as your home. Defend it to the bitter end against all comers. You'll have more gudfites than you know what to do with, and will gain the respect of your fellow militia pilots and those from the opposite factions as well. There's a reason that the recent article on TMC about Innia had such respect shown by both sides: because we've all been here before, and fighting hard against a capable opponent who is there for the same reasons you are is the best that EVE has to offer IMO.

THAT is what FW is about. Ignore the farmers and the stabs and the cloaks - they're irrelevant. Focus on the pew, with folks who pew back.

You'll be far, far happier for it.

Eha's doing fine, and we miss you guys too. It's why we sent some folks up to Villasen to keep you company and all - didn't want you to feel like you weren't appreciated

probably because they have been evicted. Completely strategic planning putting all the slaves into 1 system.

Hold on, let me catch my breath after getting in on over 1k kills in the past 40 days.... (it's tiring!).

hold up...

ok... ready...

FW is broken. It's full of farmers and I can't get any good fights anywhere.

... OK off to my crew quarters to get some sleep. o/

This is me whenever I join FW.
I don't have a big corp, and don't really even like anything that resembles 'holding SOV'.
But FW always has a PvP environment available. I can get my PvP fix when I want, and farm to keep my accounts active.
I'd like to add, with PLEX at 700mil-ish, farming for PLEX is no quick chore. It will take most newish pilots a lot of days to earn ISK for PLEX.



I also want to add: I need a golf clap or an atta boy, for resisting the urge to make 'Fraction Warfare' jokes