EVE General Discussion

For Tippia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_mechanics

The game mechanic of SP is not changed.

There are already SP accelerators in starter packs. There are already implants in-game. There are already neural re-maps.

Did you complain like this when the "game mechanic" of only being able to train one character per account, was changed?
For that you basically get 200% SP per month, as a sum total, across two characters, instead of only 150% on one toon, as would be the case in this.

@ Ramona:

If a player trains into ships he cannot competently fly, that is his own problem, and its nothing new.
People have been doing that since the beginning of EVE.

As to the Character Bazaar, no, you are wrong. And I've already explained why earlier.
Any player who is pumping PLEXs into a character to train it, will never be able to compete with the pricing of vanilla grown toons.
He is basically expending 2 PLEX per month, to get only 150% the yield in SP, as opposed to 200% from someone who trains two alts for a month in parallel. Vanilla grown characters will always be more profitable and price competitive in that regard. This is no threat whatsoever to Character Bazaar.

Your ore analogy is invalid. You can already buy a PLEX with cash, sell that, and purchase all the ore you can with that.
ITS ALREADY THERE.

There are none.

Want to discuss it on voice?

There are , and no, I have no wish to see your Boners Room ta :)

Congratulations! You have by your own words, described what P2W is all about.

I know my thread about active input was silly, feedback much appreciated, but I don't disregard or dismiss other players in my lines in that thread. It's quite easy thing to ask, as someone with excessive FPS ground, but do you even comprehend what are 3 cornerstones of any multiplayer game?

I'll let you on a secret; They are the netcode, game stability and game balance. The last one, balance is especially important, it is what keeps players in servers and lobbies, it is what makes people feel like they stand a chance.

You need to understand, that for players who Live The Game, the first 2, netcode and stability, are issue that even when badly escalated can be overlooked. Players put up a lot of garbage for the sake of having great matches. But in the end, it's the balance, the sense of being capable of actions, what is everything in the game.

ITT: Kneejerk reactionists who haven't thought it through.

Shame really. EVE was supposed to have an intelligent community.

Guys guys

When will we learn

We are only arguing with Salvos BECAUSE he is so right.

The proof is that he couldnt be wrong if THIS many people wnat to argue with him!

Aren't we lucky that these "brilliant idea" people aren't in charge of game design?

What they never understand it that they can hold the not so smart opinion of a thing (like adding pay to win features to a game that damn near died after some riots and unsubbing when the developers tried to add 'pay to get space blue jeans more expensive than real world ones') precisely because they aren't in charge and lose nothing for having such a dumb idea.

The above is why the features and ideas forum is such a cesspit of insanity. "Brilliant ideas" people aren't the kind of folk who can be honestly critical of their own thoughts. If they could, they'd have never posted their ridicules idea in the 1st place.

…which is exactly why the core notion behind this whole idea is wrong-headed: it assumes a problem that doesn't actually exists and suggests a solution that, if anything, creates the supposed problem it tries to solve.

No. PLEX does not bypass — or even interact with — either of those mechanics. The SP and ISK generation mechanics work the same and have been applied as normal. Otherwise, you wouldn't have anything to buy. All PLEX does is let you trade your future time for time others have already put in (and at a very bad exchange rate for you).

Good thing that we who have thought it through are here to temper your reactionist reflexes, then, and explain where and why you got it wrong.

Argumentum ad publicum, and false implication as if I had ever stated the above.

Shame you won't voice comm. You could have recorded it and had me banned :D
It is though, sincerely, my experience that talking helps resolve many written and literal misunderstandings.
I know, for a FACT, that you are misreading what I have said. Possibly, I am yours as well.
But as long as either of us insists in our misreading, there can be no way forward.

kneejerk reactions with reasoning explained in full