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DUST 514 PS3?? WTF

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Korobov Tesla
New Eden Nationalist Movement
#1 - 2011-09-11 10:30:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Korobov Tesla
So from what I can figure Dust 514 will be a straight console game on the worst console known to man.. No PC? No 360? WTF is dust 514 if you cant play it on Kinect? Mainly all I care about is that it will be on PC, could really care less about console games

PS. Ps3 = epic fail.
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#2 - 2011-09-11 10:33:19 UTC
Xbox live's DLC and transaction restrictions are much more strict than the PS3s, this is why you don't have steamworks on 360. Since Dust is very heavy in micro-transactions, this is probably why it isn't cross platform.
El'Niaga
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-09-11 10:34:47 UTC
In order to obtain funding to finish development they let Sony buy exclusive rights.

Considering that console games on the average last a year at most, they aren't really planning on EVE or DUST lasting past the release of WoD. That's my opinion anyway.
Korobov Tesla
New Eden Nationalist Movement
#4 - 2011-09-11 10:37:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Korobov Tesla
I don't know I think EVE will last, Dust might or might not I think they are just testing the waters so to speak. But limiting it to just console is a bad idea by it's self. It would last a whole hell of a lot longer on PC, even if it died on console.

WoD looks like filler BS game, what the hell vampiers really?

But anyway guys thanks for the input
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-09-11 10:39:43 UTC
I'm an old Xbox fan, and 2-3 years ago I would have agreed with OP.
However, since they announced Dust 514 will be PS3 only I have been reading up a bit on that console, and it's not half as bad as I thought, actually it seems to be pretty good.

PS: Kinect and all that **** sucks. P
Bubbles Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-09-11 10:45:50 UTC
The most powerful consumer processor known to man, the cell, probably running python. Makes me cry.

Arin Fensfield
NOVA Innovations Inc.
#7 - 2011-09-11 10:46:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Arin Fensfield
This thread looks a bit troll-y but.. whatever.

While the lack of a PC version is a bit curious.. it hasn't been ruled out so far as I understand.

As for the lack of an XBox version, well, you can blame Microsoft for that. Before CCP were taken on by Sony, they were already saying they only intended to make a console release. The developers did try for an XBox version, and then ran head-on into the same rules every other online start-up hits on XBox Live. I believe their words when this first came up were something along the lines of, "We're looking into a release on all the major console platforms, but are having difficulty reaching an agreement with Microsoft.'"

Unless you are a company that Microsoft really, really want in their pocket or to break someone else's monopoly on (IE: Squaresoft at the time of Final Fantasy XI) you will not be allowed to manage your game's DLC and patches through your own servers, and you will not have full control over your game's payment system. And you most certainly won't be allowed to cross-platform, especially not to another game entirely on a set of third party servers and especially not one operating on third party servers on the PS3.

Bash the PS3 all you like, but there's no way in hell DUST 514 would release on XBox as anything but a closed-network shooter - which really would doom it to total failure given that breaks everything that makes it vaguely special. Whatever the issues with the PS3, by signing on with Sony, CCP basically got paid to do what they'd have had to do in the end anyway (so long as they continued to insist on not working with a PC version anyhow).
Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
#8 - 2011-09-11 11:00:31 UTC
I expect a PC version of Dust being announced soon after the number of console players begins to dwindle, I am generous when I expect that to happen within 6 month after the release

....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced.

IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
Lost Obsession
#9 - 2011-09-11 11:10:11 UTC  |  Edited by: IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Deviana Sevidon wrote:
I expect a PC version of Dust being announced soon after the number of console players begins to dwindle, I am generous when I expect that to happen within 6 month after the release


Doesn't really matter, made for console and ported to PC won't make a good PC game, for the last few years its been ok with the PS3 and 360 being almost in the same league, but look at things like BF3 and you'll see games are going into another golden age when they are developed for PC then nerfed for console consumption.

Just buy Planetside 2 if you want a persistent online shooter, although I have nothing to base it on (other than planetside) If I had to chose now I'd say it'll probably be the better game.
J Kunjeh
#10 - 2011-09-11 11:11:00 UTC
OP: welcome to 2 months ago.

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Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
#11 - 2011-09-11 11:26:34 UTC
i hope it never gets released on PC. as both a console and pc shooter player, i can tell you PC aim bots run rampant across all shooters. they are a lot easier for people to find, install, and use. seeing as how DUST will be effecting eve 0.0, you better damn well believe that the hardcore sov holders sure as hell will go to any length to keep that sov. aim bots would be out within days of DUST's release on the pc.

Luckily for me i own a PS3 and it sits next to my pc so i will be playing both at the same time. Big smile
Korobov Tesla
New Eden Nationalist Movement
#12 - 2011-09-11 11:40:05 UTC
Sorry Arin Fensfield for not making my post nerdy enough as to not sound "troll-y" thx btw for a non existant term.

I hate Xbox and PS3, the PS3 is an expensive Blue Ray player... Has been sinces it's "development", on top of that you can only get the crappy anime games except for some titles like COD or whatever.. FPS sucks on console, hate two little knobs and a D pad, even if you can use the PS3s Harry Potter magic wond blue bubble thing I don't think it would be very good.

They should have just made DUST an aspect of EVE, insted of a PC game and a Console game just make a new option under the char creation screen. You will have Capsuleer and some thing like Mercanary or Soilder whatever.

Or better yet do what Star Trek Online attempted to do but ultimately failed at and make a game with RPG space combat and FPS ground combat (even to therse is RPG/Shooter Mode combat which is fail)..

Both these options would greatly incresse EVEs player base and CCPs Income.
Sofia Bellard
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-09-11 11:45:16 UTC
Console FPS > PC FPS hands down any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Anyone who disagrees is someone who relies on hacking the game to be able to kill anyone.

Deal.

With.

It.

Oh and btw, Emo TJ checking in! Cool

Poor sad little pirates,  why you so mad?

Korobov Tesla
New Eden Nationalist Movement
#14 - 2011-09-11 11:49:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Korobov Tesla
oo hi emo TJ!!!!! ok kid now go cry in the corner and cut your self for your idiotic comment... go troll COD lobbys..
Kunming
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#15 - 2011-09-11 11:52:14 UTC
By the time CCP pushes WoD the vampire hype will be over (look at Matrix). Im sure CCP will make a dark kick ass game like EVE used to be but by then it will only cater to a niche die-hard community and CCP will be forced to milk that game too to finance their next project.

They finally need to see that focusing on one project at a time and stable growth is better for the sake of their own business instead of acting like a capitalist on crack.
Korobov Tesla
New Eden Nationalist Movement
#16 - 2011-09-11 11:59:20 UTC
Kunming wrote:
By the time CCP pushes WoD the vampire hype will be over (look at Matrix). Im sure CCP will make a dark kick ass game like EVE used to be but by then it will only cater to a niche die-hard community and CCP will be forced to milk that game too to finance their next project.

They finally need to see that focusing on one project at a time and stable growth is better for the sake of their own business instead of acting like a capitalist on crack.


100% agree with you!! Thats why I am saying if they just integrated DUST into Eve it would be very sucessful, have two career paths, either be a RPG Pilot or a FPS ground soilder.. or be able to do both with the same char.. that Vampier BS is pretty gay anyway..
Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
#17 - 2011-09-11 12:10:38 UTC
Tenchi Sal wrote:
i hope it never gets released on PC. as both a console and pc shooter player, i can tell you PC aim bots run rampant across all shooters. they are a lot easier for people to find, install, and use. seeing as how DUST will be effecting eve 0.0, you better damn well believe that the hardcore sov holders sure as hell will go to any length to keep that sov. aim bots would be out within days of DUST's release on the pc.Big smile


You only have to look at games like Global Agenda and APB to see what a problem aimbots have become. And being F2P would you really want a bunch of aimbotters to enter into the game and make it completely one sided. Unless CCP come up with some way to deal with them then you may as well forget about having an enjoyable experience playing Dust514 on the PC.

Deviana Sevidon wrote:
I expect a PC version of Dust being announced soon after the number of console players begins to dwindle, I am generous when I expect that to happen within 6 month after the release


I have to agree, the consolers tend to succumb to 'New Shiny Syndrome' pretty fast and I can't see them playing Dust514 full on for very long. They will start logging in less and less as other games are released. My belief is that a core of people will remain loyal to Dust514 and I'm betting that most of them will be EVE players.


All in all I think it will be interesting to see what transpires overall, I just hope that EVE and CCP are not adversely affected if things with Dust514 start to go pear shaped. A new game concept in an unknown market is always a risk to a company, only time will tell with this one.

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Jashmyne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-09-11 12:33:26 UTC
Kunming wrote:
By the time CCP pushes WoD the vampire hype will be over (look at Matrix).

Except WoD is a over 20 year old popular franchise and it's popularity is not based on the current vampire fad.
Vampire the Masquerade:Bloodlines was a buggy unfinished game and yet people still loved it to death due to the strength of the franchise. And it still has a large following even 7 years later.
If the MMO captures the feeling of the world and has proper gameplay suitable for the rules of the world then CCP will have nothing to worry about as alot of WoD players will easily get onboard.
And from what I read CCP is aiming for, they are on the right track.
Grimpak
Manufactorum.
Atomic Fusion Industries
#19 - 2011-09-11 12:37:21 UTC
I can't believe how high the troll:post relation is in this threadLol

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Kunming
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#20 - 2011-09-11 12:53:32 UTC
Jashmyne wrote:
Kunming wrote:
By the time CCP pushes WoD the vampire hype will be over (look at Matrix).

Except WoD is a over 20 year old popular franchise and it's popularity is not based on the current vampire fad.
Vampire the Masquerade:Bloodlines was a buggy unfinished game and yet people still loved it to death due to the strength of the franchise. And it still has a large following even 7 years later.
If the MMO captures the feeling of the world and has proper gameplay suitable for the rules of the world then CCP will have nothing to worry about as alot of WoD players will easily get onboard.
And from what I read CCP is aiming for, they are on the right track.


Yea I played Vampire the Masquerade as well, like I said Im sure CCP will make a game that catches the atmosphere of the game environment but in the end their (CCP) current style of running their business will mess up that product as well. Die hard fans of the genre will criticise CCP for ruining the game to milk morons to finance their next project.
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