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More Ships like Venture.

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Daenerys Dennkhar
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2014-04-06 10:09:24 UTC
Mining barges sucks, it's monotone, no real satisfaction to play in barges.
But the Venture break this non atmosphere.

More Ships Like Venture. Cruise size hull mining ship, BC, Battleship size hull mining ship (powerful, independent like a combat battleship but for mining) T3 hull...and remove Barges or let barges to orca pilot and mine with it like Fighters for Carrier ship.

What do you think?

If you have issue with my english, send a petition to google translate ;)
Tabris Katz
The Forgotten Children
#2 - 2014-04-06 10:39:57 UTC
I really don't see what makes mining barges "monotone" as compared to the venture. Well ok yes, the venture as a specialization which is gas mining and exhumers (t2 barges) used to have specializations similar. For example the Skiff reduced the chance of clouds forming around Mercoxit and the Machinaw could harvest 2 units of ice per cycle with slightly slower speeds.

As it stands currently all mining barges (not just t2) have some major difference including some that your looking for. Procurers and Skiffs now have hp that is comparable to battleships and are thus suicide gank proof (unless they really want you dead). Retrievers and Machinaws now have massive ore bays that make them great for solo mining. Covetors and Hulks mine the most ore per cycle with all three lasers and are most effective when Orca support is provided. In this sense all the mining barges have their own flavor.

If you're complaining about all the mining barges looking the same I can understand that but considering they are all made by ORE and server the same purpose it's not surprising that they all have a similar look.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-04-06 17:34:08 UTC
"no real satisfaction to play in barges."
Where are you getting this from? Maybe YOU don't find any satisfaction in flying barges but some of us actually do.
Daenerys Dennkhar
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2014-04-06 17:54:22 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
"no real satisfaction to play in barges."
Where are you getting this from? Maybe YOU don't find any satisfaction in flying barges but some of us actually do.


Yes is that,, no real satisfaction to play with this things, skins or design ships.

For an example: Venture hull Frigate and Skiff a battleship hull design Mackinaw BC Hull and Hulk with a cruise size or other

I speak English like a Spanish cow.

Daoden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-04-06 18:16:07 UTC
I say lets get a T2 version of the venture first with maybe some bonuses to drone damage and shields along with the ventures current bonuses. Maybe slightly more gas harvesting speed then the venture to make it more specialized and actually usefull.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#6 - 2014-04-06 20:26:23 UTC
the venture is awesome.

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Solhild
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-04-06 21:03:01 UTC
Daenerys Dennkhar wrote:
Mining barges sucks, it's monotone, no real satisfaction to play in barges.
But the Venture break this non atmosphere.

More Ships Like Venture. Cruise size hull mining ship, BC, Battleship size hull mining ship (powerful, independent like a combat battleship but for mining) T3 hull...and remove Barges or let barges to orca pilot and mine with it like Fighters for Carrier ship.

What do you think?

If you have issue with my english, send a petition to google translate ;)


The Google translate comment made me chuckle Cool
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#8 - 2014-04-06 21:55:03 UTC
Daenerys Dennkhar wrote:
Mining barges sucks, it's monotone, no real satisfaction to play in barges.
But the Venture break this non atmosphere.

More Ships Like Venture. Cruise size hull mining ship, BC, Battleship size hull mining ship (powerful, independent like a combat battleship but for mining) T3 hull...and remove Barges or let barges to orca pilot and mine with it like Fighters for Carrier ship.

What do you think?

If you have issue with my english, send a petition to google translate ;)



I would like to see Venture design built into a Covetor or Retriever Hull where the barge would have a high low to moderate (comparable to a Frigate) combat capabilities.

The only ones who don't want barges defending itself are those who gank with dessies.
Ayeshah Volfield
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-04-07 04:10:46 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Daenerys Dennkhar wrote:
Mining barges sucks, it's monotone, no real satisfaction to play in barges.
But the Venture break this non atmosphere.

More Ships Like Venture. Cruise size hull mining ship, BC, Battleship size hull mining ship (powerful, independent like a combat battleship but for mining) T3 hull...and remove Barges or let barges to orca pilot and mine with it like Fighters for Carrier ship.

What do you think?

If you have issue with my english, send a petition to google translate ;)



I would like to see Venture design built into a Covetor or Retriever Hull where the barge would have a high low to moderate (comparable to a Frigate) combat capabilities.

The only ones who don't want barges defending itself are those who gank with dessies.


Why not use the procurer ?

EVE is what happens when the rule of law does not apply and Darwinism is allowed to run freely.

Daenerys Dennkhar
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2014-04-07 08:08:31 UTC
Ayeshah Volfield wrote:
DrysonBennington wrote:
Daenerys Dennkhar wrote:
Mining barges sucks, it's monotone, no real satisfaction to play in barges.
But the Venture break this non atmosphere.

More Ships Like Venture. Cruise size hull mining ship, BC, Battleship size hull mining ship (powerful, independent like a combat battleship but for mining) T3 hull...and remove Barges or let barges to orca pilot and mine with it like Fighters for Carrier ship.

What do you think?

If you have issue with my english, send a petition to google translate ;)



I would like to see Venture design built into a Covetor or Retriever Hull where the barge would have a high low to moderate (comparable to a Frigate) combat capabilities.

The only ones who don't want barges defending itself are those who gank with dessies.


Why not use the procurer ?



Beacause it's monotone, it's like play with the black monolith, need new hull design A BIG DESIGN ! I want to be proud to face asteroids!!! Twisted
Velicitia
XS Tech
#11 - 2014-04-07 09:20:07 UTC
use a Rokh then.

But seriously, the barges are fine the way they were (the new "roles" are a bit annoying ... but the whinging that the barges were broken apparently won the day).

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia