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So pod kills, in secure space, are just bullying, are not they?

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#21 - 2014-04-06 14:05:41 UTC
There's so much wrong with his post... I literally don't know what retort to use.

Wavering between "watchlisted" "uninstall", and "Go back to WoW". I had considered "highsec is not supposed to be safe", but others have made that point already.

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MonkeyMagic Thiesant
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2014-04-06 14:16:12 UTC
a) There's no such thing as "secure" space.

b) A pod kill is no different than any other kill. Sometimes they're worth a lot more than the ship itself - yesterday someone died in HS with an 8bn pod (after his 2.5bn vindi died).
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#23 - 2014-04-06 14:47:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
To directly answer the OP

Are not, they.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#24 - 2014-04-06 14:48:28 UTC
Nhanderu Mbaekuaa wrote:
Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones.


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Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-04-06 14:56:52 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
What I dont understand is

Why do people let their pods get killed?


Alcohol

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#26 - 2014-04-06 14:57:55 UTC
Charlie Firpol wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
What I dont understand is

Why do people let their pods get killed?


Alcohol


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Sarah McKnobbo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2014-04-06 15:09:29 UTC
No. It's a perfectly valid thing to do
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#28 - 2014-04-06 15:20:59 UTC
If we weren't supposed to kill pods, CCP wouldn't have given us killable pods. Since they did, and we know for a fact that they don't support bullying, we can only assume that pod killing is not bullying, and working as intended.

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Flying Dangerous
#29 - 2014-04-06 15:22:59 UTC
If anything, those that present such juicy and easy targets are the bully.

Its unfair on the poor, nearly innocent ganker who has difficulty controlling the urge to F1.

Autopiloting/drunk/distracted/slow pods take advantage of the vulnerability of gankers. Just mean really.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#30 - 2014-04-06 15:37:48 UTC
Any time you lose a ship and/or pod, it is your own damn fault, not anyone else's.

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BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#31 - 2014-04-06 15:42:34 UTC
Nhanderu Mbaekuaa wrote:
Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones.

Usual arguments for this generic kill are:

- "I can". Everything told, here.
- "silent them". Er??? Pirate-wise, it increases the visibility of the system in the map. By killing the pod, you get it silenced in local... and a big danger mark in the global map, telling everyone to carry more force, or more caution, where crossing your system.
-"raise the price of implants". Ok if you manufacture them, but otherwise?
-"as real life". It is fascinating how many people in EVE seem to play from favelas in Brasil suburbia. Wait, I have been there and I have never been killed inside of the pod.
-"trophy" That could have sense, because in the killboards a hi-sec pod killing is, arguably, scored same that a battle-situation low sec.


What I am a bit surprised is that the times this topic emerges in the forum, people does not like to look at the ritual/etnological side of the issue. I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players?



Instead of coming here, you should contact a certain CSM vice chairman with a obscure blog about 'bullying'.

I hear that he's a real expert on the subject.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#32 - 2014-04-06 16:03:35 UTC
BuckStrider wrote:


I hear that he's a real expert on the subject.


He bullied us all with his bully-****

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Solecist Project
#33 - 2014-04-06 16:41:37 UTC
Excuse me, I didn't get the message.

We're allowed to podkill now?

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Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-04-06 16:54:28 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
There's so much wrong with his post... I literally don't know what retort to use.

Wavering between "watchlisted" "uninstall", and "Go back to WoW". I had considered "highsec is not supposed to be safe", but others have made that point already.


You forgot the classic, "hello there future war target."*






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Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#35 - 2014-04-06 16:55:18 UTC
You can do whatever you want in EVE.

So you can choose to be in pod in h-sec.

You're doing it wrong.

Also, click warp if someone puts you in one

Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2014-04-06 17:02:35 UTC
Nhanderu Mbaekuaa wrote:
Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones.


Skulls and Bones.... why pick that? Hmmm.. oh wait guys.... we're totally wrong about this thread. This is a "podkilling is Bush's fault" thread. Thanks Bush.

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Victor Andall
#37 - 2014-04-06 17:26:08 UTC
OP, if you got podded in any sort of space, you deserved it. In 99% of all the cases you could have escaped and chose not to.

Pod kills before Victor Andall knew how to save his pod: 2
Last Pod kill: 157 days ago, 30 days after starting to play

Pod kills after Victor Andall learned how to save his pod: 0

As you can see, learning how to save your pod can lead to up to a 100% reduction in pod losses.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#38 - 2014-04-06 17:26:25 UTC
I declared war on the OP because of this thread.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#39 - 2014-04-06 17:31:29 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I declared war on the OP because of this thread.


I have sent you a gift of isk to help in protracting the war

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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2014-04-06 17:31:48 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
This is a "podkilling is Bush's fault" thread. Thanks Bush.


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