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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#1 - 2014-04-04 20:56:33 UTC
WHERE lol

I click on the link in the launcher, I get

https://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/

I dont see "vote here"

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2014-04-04 21:09:15 UTC
Spoiler alert:

Erotica 1 is not on the ballot.






There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#3 - 2014-04-04 21:09:44 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Spoiler alert:

Erotica 1 is not on the ballot.








lol I figured, being that he's banned and left for star citizen

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Druthlen
The Carlisle Group
#4 - 2014-04-04 21:20:21 UTC
Thank god that psychopath can now torture SC community and make it a sickening place to play.
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-04-04 21:24:23 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Spoiler alert:

Erotica 1 is not on the ballot.


lol I figured, being that he's banned and left for star citizen


Well, last I heard he withdrew/never put his application in. Just like James 315 last year - much talk, no action.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#6 - 2014-04-04 21:25:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Druthlen wrote:
Thank god that psychopath can now torture SC community and make it a sickening place to play.


Given that the only thing he technically even DID wrong was use TS...

Given that his supposed victim disagrees with the ban, never reported him AND disagrees with it being "torture"...

Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Spoiler alert:

Erotica 1 is not on the ballot.


lol I figured, being that he's banned and left for star citizen


Well, last I heard he withdrew/never put his application in. Just like James 315 last year - much talk, no action.


Meh I imagine most ppl are like this. Not too many people who have forgiving jobs/bill collectors that can take on a unpaid job for the sake of a video game.


Though on topic, when IS the election?

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#7 - 2014-04-04 21:27:51 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Spoiler alert:

Erotica 1 is not on the ballot.


lol I figured, being that he's banned and left for star citizen


Well, last I heard he withdrew/never put his application in. Just like James 315 last year - much talk, no action.

They're the same person, I tell you!

Anyway, back to the question-- when is the vote!
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#8 - 2014-04-04 21:29:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Druthlen wrote:
Thank god that psychopath can now torture SC community and make it a sickening place to play.


Given that the only thing he technically even DID wrong was use TS...

Given that his supposed victim disagrees with the ban, never reported him AND disagrees with it being "torture"...

Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Spoiler alert:

Erotica 1 is not on the ballot.


lol I figured, being that he's banned and left for star citizen


Well, last I heard he withdrew/never put his application in. Just like James 315 last year - much talk, no action.


Meh I imagine most ppl are like this. Not too many people who have forgiving jobs/bill collectors that can take on a unpaid job for the sake of a video game.


Though on topic, when IS the election?


Druthlen:
E1 is not a psychopath. He's a high-functioning sociopath.

Malkavian:
IIRC, the elections are actually happening on the 8th. The official candidate list was supposed to come out, earlier today, but hadn't as of last time I checked.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-04-04 21:31:50 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:

Sipphakala:
E1 is not a psychopath. He's a high-functioning sociopath.


I never said he was either, learn to read.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#10 - 2014-04-04 21:33:37 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:

Sipphakala:
E1 is not a psychopath. He's a high-functioning sociopath.


I never said he was either, learn to read.


My bad.... I read the quote string completely wrong. Editing, now.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#11 - 2014-04-04 21:41:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Jarod Garamonde wrote:

Druthlen:
E1 is not a psychopath. He's a high-functioning sociopath.
Malkavian


Thank dog someone around here knows the difference. I see that term bandied-about far too often as a lame talking point.

/not that it was used as such in this thread. Big smile

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#12 - 2014-04-04 21:47:39 UTC
Quote:


Malkavian:
IIRC, the elections are actually happening on the 8th. The official candidate list was supposed to come out, earlier today, but hadn't as of last time I checked.


thx!

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#13 - 2014-04-04 21:50:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Doc Fury wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:

Druthlen:
E1 is not a psychopath. He's a high-functioning sociopath.
Malkavian


Thank dog someone around here knows the difference. I see that term bandied-about far too often as a lame talking point.

/not that it was used as such in this thread. Big smile


Theres a reason for that. If you google psychopathy, you get http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy.

ASPD is IN that wiki under psychopathy.

Though:

Quote:
The triarchic model, formulated by Christopher J. Patrick et al., suggests that different conceptions of psychopathy emphasize three observable characteristics to varying degrees. Analyses have been made with respect to the applicability of measurement tools such as the Hare Psychopathy Checklist (PCL, PCL-R) and Psychopathic Personality Inventory (PPI) to this model.[1][7]

Boldness. Low fear including stress-tolerance, toleration of unfamiliarity and danger, and high self-confidence and social assertiveness. The PCL-R measures this relatively poorly and mainly through Facet 1 of Factor 1. Similar to PPI Fearless dominance. May correspond to differences in the amygdala and other neurological systems associated with fear.[1][7]
Disinhibition. Poor impulse control including problems with planning and foresight, lacking affect and urge control, demand for immediate gratification, and poor behavioral restraints. Similar to PCL-R Factor 2 and PPI Impulsive antisociality. May correspond to impairments in frontal lobe systems that are involved in such control.[1][7]
Meanness. Lacking empathy and close attachments with others, disdain of close attachments, use of cruelty to gain empowerment, exploitative tendencies, defiance of authority, and destructive excitement seeking. The PCL-R in general is related to this but in particular some elements in Factor 1. Similar to PPI Coldheartedness but also includes elements of subscales in Impulsive antisociality. Meanness may possibly be caused by either high boldness or high disinhibition combined with an adverse environment. Thus, a child with high boldness may respond poorly to punishment but may respond better to rewards and secure attachments which may not be available under adverse conditions. A child with high disinhibition may have increased problems under adverse conditions with meanness developing in response.


So... solo PVPers O.o

Quote:
Antisocial personality disorder
Main article: Antisocial personality disorder

Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD), the criteria of which were based on American psychiatrist Hervey Cleckley's work[citation needed] on psychopathy, is described in the DSM-IV-TR as "... a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood. This pattern has also been referred to as psychopathy, sociopathy, or dissocial personality disorder."[2][94][3]

A diagnosis of ASPD is based largely on explicit behavioral patterns, whereas measurement tools such as the PCL or PPI also largely, or solely, rely on judgment or self-reports of personality traits.[95][96][1] The diagnostic criteria for ASPD focus relatively less on personality traits partly due to the belief that such traits are difficult to measure reliably and it is "easier to agree on the behaviors that typify a disorder than on the reasons why they occur".[95][96] As a result, critics have argued that psychopathy and ASPD are not synonymous, despite the DSM's statement that ASPD has been referred to as psychopathy.[1][2][95][96][90][3]

Nonetheless, psychopathy has been proposed as a specifier under an alternative model for ASPD. In the DSM-5, under "Alternative DSM-5 Model for Personality Disorders", ASPD with psychopathic features is described as characterized by "a lack of anxiety or fear and by a bold interpersonal style that may mask maladaptive behaviors (e.g., fraudulence)." Low levels of withdrawal and high levels of attention-seeking combined with low anxiety demonstrate "social potency" and "stress immunity" in psychopathy.[97]:765 Under the specifier, affective and interpersonal characteristics are comparatively emphasized over behavioral components.[98]


Sociopathy is a FORM OF psychopathy. Assuming any of thats even right lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#14 - 2014-04-04 21:50:33 UTC
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#15 - 2014-04-04 22:01:47 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:


Sociopathy is a FORM OF psychopathy. Assuming any of thats even right lol


Try this instead, a tad more credible probably:

Jack Pemment ⁎ The University of Mississippi, Biology Department,
http://www.psychologytoday.com/files/attachments/112693/psychopathy-versus-sociopathy.pdf

More concise and only a month old:
http://www.medicaldaily.com/whats-difference-between-sociopath-and-psychopath-not-much-one-might-kill-you-270694

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Druthlen
The Carlisle Group
#16 - 2014-04-04 22:09:24 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Druthlen:
E1 is not a psychopath. He's a high-functioning sociopath.

Malkavian:
IIRC, the elections are actually happening on the 8th. The official candidate list was supposed to come out, earlier today, but hadn't as of last time I checked.


Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/) (or sociopathy /ˈsoʊsiəˌpæθi/) is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior.

so·ci·o·path a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

please explain Diff???
Druthlen
The Carlisle Group
#17 - 2014-04-04 22:12:52 UTC
ok from the link provided

When used in every day conversation the importance in the
distinction is not noticeable —
Druthlen
The Carlisle Group
#18 - 2014-04-04 22:15:24 UTC
Oh so psychopaths can be helped with drugs sociopaths should be locked up forever. Got it.

He is a sociopath then.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#19 - 2014-04-04 22:20:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Druthlen wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Druthlen:
E1 is not a psychopath. He's a high-functioning sociopath.

Malkavian:
IIRC, the elections are actually happening on the 8th. The official candidate list was supposed to come out, earlier today, but hadn't as of last time I checked.


Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/) (or sociopathy /ˈsoʊsiəˌpæθi/) is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior.

so·ci·o·path a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

please explain Diff???


Well, first of all, you aren't a psychiatrist... so you shouldn't be diagnosing people.

Sociopaths are not psychopaths, for a number of reasons. First of all, because sociopathy isn't a mental illness. It's a method of behavior. A sociopath fully comprehends the difference between right and wrong, and just simply occasionally CHOOSES to ignore social norms.
I don't know where you got your definition from, but it's wrong. Urban Dictionary is not a credible academic source.

But, let me re-state this fact: YOU ARE NOT A PSYCHIATRIST. End of story. Stop diagnosing people.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#20 - 2014-04-04 22:26:12 UTC
Druthlen wrote:
Oh so psychopaths can be helped with drugs sociopaths should be locked up forever. Got it.

He is a sociopath then.



A main difference is one will kill you with little consideration, and is inherently dangerous. The other understands the repercussions associated with crossing that line.

To quote the article which sums it up nicely:

"Psychopaths don’t have a sense of right and wrong; sociopaths do. "

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

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