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Eve Online plex price surge over due to new mmo release

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Tajic Kaundur
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#41 - 2014-04-03 17:23:13 UTC
Uhh... Do me a favour.

Set this to 14 days and tell me if PLEX price changed any.
Broni-wan Kenobi
JynxHeavenly Dragons Inc.
#42 - 2014-04-03 17:37:19 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Broni-wan Kenobi wrote:
shaping up to be EvE with orks, elves, other fantasy trappings


why would you want that?



Why wouldn't someone want that? I mean I love big ships and what not, but if it was only "ship porn" that kept me, I could play lots of other things. It is the /mechanics/ and the interaction with people that I enjoy. Getting to do that in a fantasy setting has its appeal, and again... its not as if people can't do both.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2014-04-03 22:31:11 UTC
Broni-wan Kenobi wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Broni-wan Kenobi wrote:
shaping up to be EvE with orks, elves, other fantasy trappings


why would you want that?



Why wouldn't someone want that? I mean I love big ships and what not, but if it was only "ship ****" that kept me, I could play lots of other things. It is the /mechanics/ and the interaction with people that I enjoy. Getting to do that in a fantasy setting has its appeal, and again... its not as if people can't do both.



Look at Spock .. with those pointy ears and snooty attitude he is obviously an Elf in space. So it has been done before.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#44 - 2014-04-03 23:28:43 UTC
OP youre wrong.

Its market manipulation 100%
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
#45 - 2014-04-03 23:47:47 UTC
Eh, Played the ESO betas. Wasn't particularly bad tbh. I think they managed to capture something of the spirit of the TES games which is no small feat in an mmo environment.

Still, not something I'd pay $50 + $15/month for. Not in today's mmo market.
Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
#46 - 2014-04-04 07:57:52 UTC
Agondray wrote:
i hardly see any difference in sell prices...


He's just posting hoping that people will panic-sell PLEX in order to make the price drop. He probably got kicked out of MD because he's not subtle enough.
Tanuki Kittybeta
Ripperoni in Pepperoni
#47 - 2014-04-04 09:28:02 UTC
Broni-wan Kenobi
JynxHeavenly Dragons Inc.
#48 - 2014-04-04 13:17:18 UTC
Tanuki Kittybeta wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1143958#post1143958

About ESO. We called it.



That thread, what it says, is the reason TESO will end up going free2play within a year ala ToR.
Broni-wan Kenobi
JynxHeavenly Dragons Inc.
#49 - 2014-04-04 13:24:17 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Broni-wan Kenobi wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Broni-wan Kenobi wrote:
shaping up to be EvE with orks, elves, other fantasy trappings


why would you want that?



Why wouldn't someone want that? I mean I love big ships and what not, but if it was only "ship ****" that kept me, I could play lots of other things. It is the /mechanics/ and the interaction with people that I enjoy. Getting to do that in a fantasy setting has its appeal, and again... its not as if people can't do both.



Look at Spock .. with those pointy ears and snooty attitude he is obviously an Elf in space. So it has been done before.


Elves in space is not a problem, look at all the Eldar fans. So the fact elves in space has been done ...doesn't matter. What DOES matter is having a system like EvE Online but with the trappings of the fantasy setting.

I never said "OMG, its le eve killa!1111", but considering that you have a part of the population that DOES enjoy fantasy stuff as well, I believe there will be some level of cross over.

More so on those nights when everyone is just sitting around, waiting for someone to start something or pop off. I can easily see someone saying "Well, corp mates, we don't seem to be doing anything tonight, so I'm going to go." and then hit up Albion.

Lord knows having options is a good thing :P
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#50 - 2014-04-04 13:26:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Broni-wan Kenobi wrote:

Elves in space is not a problem, look at all the Eldar fans.


Yeah bringing Warhammer 40k into the discussion.....

Thats a vote winner there Roll

Broni-wan Kenobi wrote:
I can easily see someone saying "Well, corp mates, we don't seem to be doing anything tonight, so I'm going to go." and then hit up Albion.


And no faster way to get dropped from corp, if not AWOXed and scammed to death first.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Willem Dillen
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#51 - 2014-04-04 13:26:44 UTC
Lol you must be joking neither of these games are anywhere near a tread to EVE.
ESO is buggy as hell and everyone that bought it will stop playing it within 4 weeks, and SC is not even a real MMO
Broni-wan Kenobi
JynxHeavenly Dragons Inc.
#52 - 2014-04-04 18:13:01 UTC

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And no faster way to get dropped from corp, if not AWOXed and scammed to death first.[/quote]


Believe it or not, there are corps that don't demand you make EvE your entire life.:P

Like I told my corpmates on my main "I don't mind pvping and doing **** when people are /doing/ stuff... but making my ship spin in the station isn't my idea of a fun way to spend a week night."
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#53 - 2014-04-04 18:21:34 UTC
Because I haven't been able to vent my spleen anywhere else:

I too share a hatred for the Eldar Scrolls game that promised much and delivered a near 'NeverWinter Online' experience with slightly more enjoyable crafting.

ESO was not so much bad as it gave you the themepark express with mostly meaningless skill choices that ended in 'morphing' skills that changed overall function in a very minor way. You were either playing a single player game with people randomly bunning hopping or sprinting past OR you were trying to find a group of people to play a 2002-03 DAoC (Dark Age of Camelot / Planetside) style realm vs realm battle.

Everything there had been done better somewhere else.

Plus I like a little non-consentual PVP every now and again (Let's be honest, I'm always on the receiving end but it keeps the game fresh).
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#54 - 2014-04-04 18:38:55 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Got beta invite to ESO. Played for less than two hours, uninstalled, been flagging their endless "join now!" as spam ever since then.

It's just another generic WoW clone in ES clothes, nothing more. The game will probably beat KotR's record for "Biggest Launch followed by Biggest Exodus."

Seriously, it will turn into a P2W game within a year and be gone within three, tops.

Now SC... that might make a dent for a while, but despite all the claims that game & EvE are just too fundamentally different to really be considered competition with each other. What SC will be competing against is Valkyrie, and that CCP is still pursuing Valkyrie in light of this is just classic hopeful myopic greed on CCP's part. That's assuming that SC ever actually comes out and Robert's doesn't just take the money and spend the rest of his life getting drunk in Switzerland & laughing at all the suckers who believed in him.

The Mandate is the one I've got my eye on, but again I doubt it will ever actually get finished, and if it does it will be so long in the future that all the original KS backers will have completely forgotten about it, thus killing most interest before it even begins.



I would say that SC is definitely going to be competition for EvE. Yes, they are two different game types, but I only have so many hours in the day.. and I will surely be giving star citizen a chance. If its everything its setting out to be, I would say that EvE may have a serious contender on its hands. Time will tell.

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Herzav
Perkone
Caldari State
#55 - 2014-04-04 19:41:48 UTC
Wait what?

I though the EvE crowd was too elitist to play these cliche-cookiecutter-gay-fabulous-bad MMORPG.
What game offers the dept of EvE? ESO combat looks like both parties are having a seizure, The animations are hurrible.

And for the naysayers, they (apparently) borrowed the skill system from GW2.

And after all that, I am still interested in trying it out, although I will most prolly crawl back to EvE.
Ultroth
Project Valhalla.
The Initiative.
#56 - 2014-04-04 20:52:16 UTC
Herzav wrote:
Wait what?

I though the EvE crowd was too elitist to play these cliche-cookiecutter-gay-fabulous-bad MMORPG.
What game offers the dept of EvE? ESO combat looks like both parties are having a seizure, The animations are hurrible.

And for the naysayers, they (apparently) borrowed the skill system from GW2.

And after all that, I am still interested in trying it out, although I will most prolly crawl back to EvE.


Don't waste your money mate, TESO is basically WOW/RIFT/Other Theme park MMO's with the gamma turned down to make it seem 'grim and forbidding'

Be less boring having an extended conversation with John Major

"It's better to to stay silent and appear stupid, than to open your mouth and leave no doubt!"


Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#57 - 2014-04-04 23:30:46 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
I would say that SC is definitely going to be competition for EvE. Yes, they are two different game types, but I only have so many hours in the day.. and I will surely be giving star citizen a chance. If its everything its setting out to be, I would say that EvE may have a serious contender on its hands. Time will tell.


First you talk in general terms: "SC is definitely..." then you substantiate it with your hours limitations? A bit weak of a point, isn't it?


SC is very different from EvE, catering to different player bases, with different objectives and underlying technology.
Actually, it's attempt to cater both to "single player gamers" with a side game of MMO is more similar to SWTOR (in approach) than EvE. Also, the SC player will be less "power greedy" than EvE, with less huge politics and similar, another factor that makes EvE... EvE.

Also, one will be about simulation, dogfights, "active play", while EvE is strategy, assembling armies, setting up empires.

I can't see two more different games.

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2014-04-05 00:26:45 UTC
Broni-wan Kenobi wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Broni-wan Kenobi wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Broni-wan Kenobi wrote:
shaping up to be EvE with orks, elves, other fantasy trappings


why would you want that?



Why wouldn't someone want that? I mean I love big ships and what not, but if it was only "ship ****" that kept me, I could play lots of other things. It is the /mechanics/ and the interaction with people that I enjoy. Getting to do that in a fantasy setting has its appeal, and again... its not as if people can't do both.



Look at Spock .. with those pointy ears and snooty attitude he is obviously an Elf in space. So it has been done before.


Elves in space is not a problem, look at all the Eldar fans. So the fact elves in space has been done ...doesn't matter. What DOES matter is having a system like EvE Online but with the trappings of the fantasy setting.

I never said "OMG, its le eve killa!1111", but considering that you have a part of the population that DOES enjoy fantasy stuff as well, I believe there will be some level of cross over.

More so on those nights when everyone is just sitting around, waiting for someone to start something or pop off. I can easily see someone saying "Well, corp mates, we don't seem to be doing anything tonight, so I'm going to go." and then hit up Albion.

Lord knows having options is a good thing :P



I have signed upfor the pathfinder beta whichwill be a D&D based MMO with Eve style skill queues, though htey intend to allow skills to accumulate if your queue expires.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#59 - 2014-04-05 00:40:08 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

SC is very different from EvE, catering to different player bases, with different objectives and underlying technology.
Actually, it's attempt to cater both to "single player gamers" with a side game of MMO is more similar to SWTOR (in approach) than EvE. Also, the SC player will be less "power greedy" than EvE, with less huge politics and similar, another factor that makes EvE... EvE.

Also, one will be about simulation, dogfights, "active play", while EvE is strategy, assembling armies, setting up empires.

I can't see two more different games.



And yet EVE players are so frightened of it they are starting forum accts en mass over there to try and sabotage it before it even gets off the ground.

Weird stuff.

Mr Epeen Cool
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#60 - 2014-04-05 14:31:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Mr Epeen wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

SC is very different from EvE, catering to different player bases, with different objectives and underlying technology.
Actually, it's attempt to cater both to "single player gamers" with a side game of MMO is more similar to SWTOR (in approach) than EvE. Also, the SC player will be less "power greedy" than EvE, with less huge politics and similar, another factor that makes EvE... EvE.

Also, one will be about simulation, dogfights, "active play", while EvE is strategy, assembling armies, setting up empires.

I can't see two more different games.



And yet EVE players are so frightened of it they are starting forum accts en mass over there to try and sabotage it before it even gets off the ground.

Weird stuff.

Mr Epeen Cool


Well, there ARE long unanswered (by CCP) players pleas that SC apparently seems to answer.

In example: why did I stop PvPing in EvE (except trading, which is a sublime form of PvP itself) and now PvP in other games?
Because I came to EvE to find small scale PvP that would make me "live again" the epic fun I had in X-Wing, Tie-Figther, their multiplayer versions and other space games. Like many other sci-fi enthusiasts I also love "sims", like space sims, flight sims and so on.

EvE delivered to me in many ways but it did not deliver at all at ships dogfigthing, immersive simulation and why not, KOTOR / Mass Effect alike "out of ship, in station and planetary adventures".

Apparently, "just" a decade too late, CCP decided to start making Valkyrie. But waiting so long was a bad mistake they'll pay a lot, because now they are in the role of "follower" and those who follow NEVER grab the treasure but only the breadcrumbs.

Now CCP have to fight against a company that has $41M (to date) in funding, shows ship models like this (notice it's fitted with "Bulkheads" and you can see them) and shows a concept cockpit like this.

Now, you might say it's all vaporware (let's hope not!) or that those things don't even exist. But the little it's out does not look so bad, despite being just prototypes. Here's what I have shot from my hangar: one of my ships, in some outside and inside views.
Shot 2
Shot 3
Shot 4.