EVE New Citizens Q&A

I am not calling out fail of new players, but there is a recurring circle of fail that appears so blatant to my eyes, I am actually gobsmacked (yes GOBSMACKED) that CCP hasn't simply done this already...

Consider the recurring theme..the constant, every..fricken...day...theme....

1) New player joins EvE online and is deposited in 'high security' space
2) New player assumes high-security means 100% safe
3) New player gets ganked/scammed/awoxed/suspect baited/bumped
4) New player spergs and quits EvE to return to WoW
5) Goto step 1

How do we break this circle of fail that is based upon setting unreal expectations in the minds of new players?

This. (see proposed SIMPLE solution at bottom...)

For in my humble opinion, half the battle is just setting expectations up front properly, rather than setting the bears up for a later tranny surprise.

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There's only so much that you can convey with words when it comes to the ''EvE is harsh motto''
Experience is the best teacher in my opinion. After doing the tutorial and living in hisec for a bit, it's up to the noob if he decides to move into low/null sec.

OP either post what you have to say here so others can discuss and critique it or don't bother.

1. 16 year old goes downtown to find a prostitute.
2. 16 year old attempts an act he has never done before only to discover the prostitute isn't female.
3. 16 year old runs away in fear having learned his lesson while prostitute laughs.
4. 16 year old wakes up the next day to try it again.
5. Back to 1.

How do we break this circle of fail that is based upon setting unreal expectations in the minds of new players?

In my opinion, the "community" has some soul searching to do first.

I'm a new player myself, and while I hardly care about all the ganking, scamming, 'awoxing', combat baiting, bumping, extortion, blobbing and what not, one thing has been quite blatant to me since I've joined EVE, and particularly reading forums: a significant segment of the 'community' consists of people who get their kick out of being, to put it quite simply: assholes. Call them trolls, griefers or whatever, they like nothing more than pissing off other players (see: 'collecting tears') and that mindset manifests itself well beyond the aforementioned activities (see 'bonus room'). Naturally, unsuspecting and vulnerable new players make perfect victims, and so they are picked on and ripped apart. Just as naturally, the perpetrators will invoke all sort of reasons why the victims are despicable subhuman (see: 'carebears') who deserve what they get (see: wearing a miniskirt).

That might throw off some new players.

For my part, I was hardly surprised to learn that people from various cesspits of the Internet (see: 4chan) made their home within EVE online. It shows.

The new player in EVE makes me think of a first time convict thrown into a supermax penitentiary. He gets the whistles on arrival; nobody wants to talk to him or associate with him in any fashion; he gets beaten to a pulp for sitting in someone's seat (which happens to be any seat he picks), for looking at someone the wrong way (which happens to be any way he looks at someone), or for stepping over some invisible line into some gang's territory in the courtyard (roughly the whole courtyard); he gets stabbed by some gang member ordered to do so in a test of loyalty, what little possessions he has are forcibly taken from him (after he's beaten to a pulp yet again); and he's informed by someone that from now on, his punk arse does not belong to him anymore. Guards don't care, and should he ever blabs to the warden, everything up to that point would feel like a jolly good time in retrospect.

Shockingly, some new players decide not to stick around.

"You, the new player, are an adorable golden haired child. You are released, but with a map, into a wilderness park teeming with thousands of rapacious pedophiles. If you are cunning, you can someday BECOME one of the pedophiles!"
~Malcanis


I fail to see a problem with this. :D

The only true circle of fail here is you creating these look at me posts, the mods locking or deleting the posts and you creating yet another look at me post soon to be locked.

LOL.

Look at his posting history, the only thing said OP can post is links to his blog, as apparantly if he doesn't nobody will visit it.

No, you pansy.

In fact, for your heresy against an ambassador of HTFU trying to perform a service to the community, I regretfully add a +1 to the Kill-It-Forward queue. I will shoot a carebear in the face on your behalf, and GOD have mercy on your soul.

Your heresy, my hands, their blood, your conscience.

God wills it.

But you do seem to care, as you seem to follow me around like a lost puppy and pop up in every thread I am in to sperg abuse at me....

In fact, I feel tortured by you..your wanton abuse and preventing me from disengaging from this conflict because you made me invest so much time in this...its crossing the line.....you crossed the LINE! Your constant bickering with me....you.... but.... for... AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH

(sounds of head smacking on a desk repeatedly)

I am going to contact Ripard Teg immediately to see if he can do a blog post to gin up a witch hunt to get you banned Ero..er I mean J'Poll

...THEN I am going to shoot a carebear in the face (in game of course, standard witch-hunt-season disclaimers apply).