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Need help for New L4 Mission Runner
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Prince Kobol
#1 - 2011-11-30 21:12:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
As the title says I need help in deciding for a new L4 Mission Runner.

At the moment I am Flying a Nightmare + Basi

This basically allows me to forgo fitting any kind of cap /shield booster mods for my Nightmare so it can go all out DPS.

As good and as well this ship has served me over the last 3 - 4 months I am getting tired of not being able to select damage types depending on what I am fighting against (hint hint CCP Big smile)

So I am on the look out for a new Mission boat but I really can't decide on what to go for next.

I know people will say the Machariel and yes it is a fantastic PvE ship (maybe the best) but I would really like something different.


Many Thanks :)
Goose99
#2 - 2011-11-30 21:32:29 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
As the title says I need help in deciding for a new L4 Mission Runner.

At the moment I am Flying a Nightmare + Basi

This basically allows me to forgo fitting any kind of cap /shield booster mods for my Nightmare so it can go all out DPS.

As good and as well this ship has served me over the last 3 - 4 months I am getting tired of not being able to select damage types depending on what I am fighting against (hint hint CCP Big smile)

So I am on the look out for a new Mission boat but I really can't decide on what to go for next.

I know people will say the Machariel and yes it is a fantastic PvE ship (maybe the best) but I would really like something different.


Many Thanks :)


Mach. Winmatar wins both pve and pvp. NM for em rats, Mach for all others. Btw, 2x gunboat, or even 1x gunboat and 1x sentry boat to save alt tabbing, outdps 1x gunboat plus logi. Dps gain from 5th dmg mode is small enough that the benefits of removing local tank is minor.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#3 - 2011-11-30 21:33:31 UTC
Well, what do you want then?

You can either go with the min/max mission running ships such as:
Mach
Tengu
Golem
Vargur
etc

Or you could go for more fun instead and get an AF or something similar to run them in. It really depends on what you want out of a new ship.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2011-11-30 21:36:51 UTC
Since your running a logi, why not try out one of the new battlecruisers?
Goose99
#5 - 2011-11-30 21:55:46 UTC
Klymer wrote:
Since your running a logi, why not try out one of the new battlecruisers?


Then you'll have to use drones out of your logi to kill frig rats...P
Forum Chav
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-11-30 22:25:53 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
As the title says I need help in deciding for a new L4 Mission Runner.

At the moment I am Flying a Nightmare + Basi

This basically allows me to forgo fitting any kind of cap /shield booster mods for my Nightmare so it can go all out DPS.

As good and as well this ship has served me over the last 3 - 4 months I am getting tired of not being able to select damage types depending on what I am fighting against (hint hint CCP Big smile)

So I am on the look out for a new Mission boat but I really can't decide on what to go for next.

I know people will say the Machariel and yes it is a fantastic PvE ship (maybe the best) but I would really like something different.


Many Thanks :)


I agree with what one poster mentioned with regards to having two damage dealers, instead of one plus a logi'. I run a tank/dd, plus a main dd. Another poster mentioned running a logi' with a new tier 3 bc. It'd work fine. But is really a waste of dps available to you.
Alara IonStorm
#7 - 2011-11-30 22:30:59 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:

At the moment I am Flying a Nightmare + Basi

This basically allows me to forgo fitting any kind of cap /shield booster mods for my Nightmare so it can go all out DPS.

That tank your ditching gives you what, 1 extra heatsink?

You might as well put that tank right back on and put the Logi Pilot into a Battleship.

Duel Tanked Domi or a Rattler would do well. Catch agro deploy drones and alt tab back to switch targets. Have the Nightmare or a Mach warp in and murder everything well all the mission damage goes into your DPS Sponge Drone Boats.
Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#8 - 2011-12-01 04:13:37 UTC
IF you are missioning in amarr space (which you should be given that you fly a NM), there is no reason to change ships due to damage selection. Tachyons with IN multi's will own anything except may be guristas. In that case, since you already have caldari cruiser 5 in your alt, use a NM + Tengu combo.

If you are missioning elsewhere, and u need damage selection, then it basically comes down to either minmatar or caldari ships. and vargur/mach are good projectile ships and tengu/cnr/golem are best in missiles. So based on your skills, choose one in each group and go nuts.
RUF993
Tax Haven Twenty Three
#9 - 2011-12-01 05:14:44 UTC  |  Edited by: RUF993
The Tachyon Nightmare & Tengu or Nighthawk combo is absolutely ruthless.

I've used a max skilled CNR (with +5 hardwires) / Navy Dominix and they are just not even remotely on the same level.

*If you only have one monitor the Dominix, Ishtar, or Rattlesnake are your best options.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#10 - 2011-12-01 05:17:09 UTC
Rattlesnake. No logi needed. Keep alt in noctis.

Yes Rattlesnakes out perform Golems and CNR's in missions.
mkjkgkvk Melkan
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-12-01 05:30:07 UTC
how does the new buffed vindicator fare? has anyone tried it?
Goose99
#12 - 2011-12-01 05:45:25 UTC
mkjkgkvk Melkan wrote:
how does the new buffed vindicator fare? has anyone tried it?


Still 50km locking range. Still rails that needs a sebo, or blasters. Not something you would use for lvl4 grinding.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#13 - 2011-12-01 18:12:47 UTC
mkjkgkvk Melkan wrote:
how does the new buffed vindicator fare? has anyone tried it?


This fits now:

[Vindicator, mishins]
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Imperial Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800

425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L

Large Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit II
Large Ionic Field Projector II
Large Ionic Field Projector II

Not sure I'm in love with the idea, but I like having the options of triple TCs for optimal and AM or tracking and Javelin. Haven't tried it, but there you go. Something tells me it still won't be great for missions.
Wilhelm Riley
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-12-01 19:11:25 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
Klymer wrote:
Since your running a logi, why not try out one of the new battlecruisers?


Then you'll have to use drones out of your logi to kill frig rats...P


Unless he used the Talos.. 25m3 drone bay.. still not ideal though.