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Lets be fair

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Ryann Padecain
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-04-01 11:15:33 UTC
Can we turn this around as a community?

What I feel is fair to say:

  • Sokhor does not feel like a victim (come on, let's not go so far to say this is a stockholm syndrome.. seriously)
  • The bonus room has been going on for quite awhile before this event.
  • Without the attention it has gotten, CCP wouldn't have to fear for bad press and take extreme action.
  • Erotica 1 may of gone too far this time.


Scamming spying and all the dirty things are a part of EVE, carebear or not I think we can all agree on that. These things all take part of the meta game as much as they do in the actual game. I feel that if Erotica 1 was actually warned by CCP and/or asked to stop, he would of gladly done so if they felt it was truly bad for the game.

However much you hate Erotica 1 or feel what a sadistic person he is, we all know he is playing the scammer character to some extend and to be honest he represents that part of community fairly well, he is one of the bigger names who represent that side and it would be a little sad to see that go, we all know there is some roleplaying element here.

I don't actually know if Erotica 1's ban is permanent, but surely we can give the guy another chance, and not let the darker side of EVE's community die?
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#2 - 2014-04-01 11:18:37 UTC
I hope we dont end up with another 400 page thread about whether one player cruelly tormenting another is "bad or not " Roll

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Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#3 - 2014-04-01 11:18:41 UTC
This'll probably got locked as a redundant thread.

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Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#4 - 2014-04-01 11:19:06 UTC
Kirsi Kirjasto
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
#5 - 2014-04-01 11:20:26 UTC
"I would like to electrocute everyone who uses the word 'fair' in connection with CCP rule enforcement policies." - William F. Buckley, Jr
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6 - 2014-04-01 11:21:24 UTC
Peter Raptor wrote:
I hope we dont end up with another 400 page thread about whether one player cruelly tormenting another is "bad or not " Roll

No, just another 400 threads.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7 - 2014-04-01 11:21:47 UTC
Life is not fair

Where were you ages 0-5?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#8 - 2014-04-01 11:23:01 UTC
Nope, ban all scamming.
At the end of the day, every type of scamming and "not nice" behaviour is going to eventually be responsible for giving someone a sad, so why wait for victims to get hurt and then Ripard Teg to kick up a fuss about it. Why not preemptively prevent all future hurt by just banning scamming altogether? They should ban ransoms and unwanted PvP while they are at it, and that way we can be sure that no other person will be hurt.

WE should also think about changing HTFU to CTFU, for Cuddle The Fluff Up! And everyone should be given a free abaddon that has perma-fitted guns which do zero damage and automatically fire rainbow lasers out in random directions whenever you undock.

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#9 - 2014-04-01 11:25:49 UTC
Thread locked in 3... 2... 1...

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Good Sax
#10 - 2014-04-01 11:25:49 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Life is not fair

Where were you ages 0-5?


Is it about life being fair, or is it about good business practices? As paying customers I don't think it unreasonable for anyone to expect to receive the very same treatment from the proprietor that any other paying customer would receive. Not everyone is getting equal service and protection for their equal payments.




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Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-04-01 11:27:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Forum Clone 77777
Lucas Kell wrote:
Nope, ban all scamming.
At the end of the day, every type of scamming and "not nice" behaviour is going to eventually be responsible for giving someone a sad, so why wait for victims to get hurt and then Ripard Teg to kick up a fuss about it. Why not preemptively prevent all future hurt by just banning scamming altogether? They should ban ransoms and unwanted PvP while they are at it, and that way we can be sure that no other person will be hurt.

WE should also think about changing HTFU to CTFU, for Cuddle The Fluff Up! And everyone should be given a free abaddon that has perma-fitted guns which do zero damage and automatically fire rainbow lasers out in random directions whenever you undock.

Itd also be nice it it had carebear or hello kitty paint job <3<3<3<3<3<<3<3
Ryann Padecain
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-04-01 11:30:27 UTC
Hey all, put your troll and angry hats to the side for just a moment, everyone deserves a second chance?
Solecist Project
#13 - 2014-04-01 11:31:16 UTC
Ryann Padecain wrote:
Hey all, put your troll and angry hats to the side for just a moment, everyone deserves a second chance?
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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#14 - 2014-04-01 11:34:26 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Life is not fair
Where were you ages 0-5?

Is it about life being fair, or is it about good business practices? As paying customers I don't think it unreasonable for anyone to expect to receive the very same treatment from the proprietor that any other paying customer would receive. Not everyone is getting equal service and protection for their equal payments.


Because not everyone is equal

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Sturmwolke
#15 - 2014-04-01 11:52:48 UTC
Go on. It's educational to read the different wheedling tactics being adopted in forum warfare :)
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#16 - 2014-04-01 11:54:27 UTC
Nice thread title, OP. Roll

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Ssabat Thraxx
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Good Sax
#17 - 2014-04-01 11:57:41 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Life is not fair
Where were you ages 0-5?

Is it about life being fair, or is it about good business practices? As paying customers I don't think it unreasonable for anyone to expect to receive the very same treatment from the proprietor that any other paying customer would receive. Not everyone is getting equal service and protection for their equal payments.


Because not everyone is equal


Oh, I agree that not everyone is equal, I've often argued that point in rl political discussions. However, when doing business with a company, I think it reasonable to expect that everyone who pays the same price gets the same level and quality of service, or the same product.


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Sher Rayet
#18 - 2014-04-01 11:57:52 UTC
Are we done yet people?

We just need 10 more threads. That's all.

If you sing another 20 threads this gets you closer.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#19 - 2014-04-01 12:04:02 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:

Oh, I agree that not everyone is equal, I've often argued that point in rl political discussions. However, when doing business with a company, I think it reasonable to expect that everyone who pays the same price gets the same level and quality of service, or the same product.


Reasonable, probably. Right, eh again arguably yes, maybe. Practical? No, I cant agree, and I am sorry because I do see where you are coming from I really do, but protracting this argument is not a productive area.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
#20 - 2014-04-01 12:22:36 UTC
Ryann Padecain wrote:
... and it would be a little sad to see that go ...


nope, not at all^^ scamming is ok, Erotica 1 and the likes are not. Is it that hard to understand, really?
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