EVE General Discussion

The media representation of the game's (bad) reputation is the only thing bringing in more subs.

If you volunteer to be waterboarded, is it still torture?

So you knew this was going on. Hoe many petitions did YOU fill out?

Except that Erotica 1 was the one who posted it "all over internet" and CCP was not immediately aware of it. Or can you prove that they were aware of what goes inside the bonus room right from the beginning? I do think that Erotica 1 would have been eventually banned (assuming he is banned), but you guys wouldn't have had messenger to shoot.

Now, get over your grief over your loved one's apparent banning and play the game.

Are you telling me that no one from CCP reads the minerbumper blog? Are you also telling me that CCP wasn't reading all the locked posts in C&P over the last 6 months that had recordings posted on them? If they really didn't know should we put ISD upto task for not forwarding those posts and this 'grave injustice' to CCP?

You don't really believe that do you?

bullshit, CCP knew about the BRs from NOVEMBER

but yeah keep pretending

I like the closing as well:

This keeps going back to E1 specifically, and that's one of the problems I have here Mynnna. My stance here has little do do with E1, and everything to do with the next step after this, and the next step after that. If this is where it stops, and the line is CLEARLY drawn here, that's CCPs prerogative. I'm not doing a "Free E1 campaign". He's banned, there's no reversal coming nor would I ask for one.

For 11 years CCP has not acted against any player when CCP logs have shown no wrong doing. That has now changed.

Let me toss you a loaded question. Let's say we're chatting in Eve, and I say "Hey Mynnna, my hands are getting tired. Let's pop over to my TS3 server and talk about this."

I'm in there with you, maybe a couple other people. I make a recording of it, and then put it up on soundcloud. People listen to it and are outraged at you for what transpired, I blog about it, a threadnought appears.

But here's the rub: You come out on the forums in the threadnought afterwards and claim you were framed. "That's not me," you say. Other people claiming to be on the server at the time say it WAS you. They were there. Eve logs show us chatting amicably, and me suggesting we move to TS3. CCP has no way to confirm that the TS3 conversation on soundcloud is the one that happened at that time. They can't confirm I didn't doctor the recording. But it sounds like you. You didn't think to record the session yourself, so you have nothing but your word that you didn't do whatever it is we say you did.

Now, you're part of Goonswarm, so I would imagine your friends would have your back in this, and the counter smear could get ugly and result in nothing more than a locked thread, some warnings are given and nothing more comes of it. Maybe I get DDOSed a few times, obviously by one of your fellows, but I can't prove who it was so nothing happens there either.

Suppose for a minute though that you don't have many friends in Eve. Everyone has already made up their mind that you're guilty. Your supporters in that threadnought are few and far between. What then?

THAT is where I'm afraid we're going here, and ANY steps taken in that general direction are what I'm opposed to. -DJ FunkyBacon


AS I SAID BEFORE:

Yeah was 30 days.

Actually there is one interesting part that you can "kind of" relate the two of these incidents together.

A lot of people here have mentioned that Sohkar is over this, and no longer upset over the matter. And that it doesn't make sense to punish Erotica 1 when the person who was allegedly bullied doesn't even see it as bullying.

That happened in the Mittani incident as well.

The individual who The Mittani shamed at Fan Fest and asked everybody to harass didn't even know that the entire issue had gone beyond his private interaction with Mittani in the initial EveMAIL until Mittani had already received his ban and other players began sending the dude EveMAILS.

He even expressed that he had already moved beyond it and didn't see why everybody was making a big deal about it.

Lol plz.

Last year,I made a police report about online libel and defamation about a person who was doing such towards me in a setting where I am identifiable IRL. I was interviewed by the police and provided evidence in the form of screenshots, dates and logs. The detective who interviewed me and I, sat and managed to identify the person from pics in his site thatshowed his band, and from the band name written on their drums, which we then checked the bands site for and identified the singers name. After that, all it requires is for the cops to knock on his door and corroborate that it is infact the same person.

Only last month, around a year later, did the prosecutor call me and ask if I still wanted them taken to court. I replied yes and to my knowledge it is now being decided in court. Im not suing for damages, so to my knowledge I will never know the outcome. Its between the perpetrator and the State now.

Some things take time.

As to whether any of this would have happened if Ripard hadnt written his blog, that is pure speculation and irrelevant for two reasons:
1) Ripard Teg can write whatever he wants on his blog. Erotica1 is a virtual entity that exists only in a game. You cant defame a virtual alias which has no legal status, and furthermore that would require the blog tohave lied, which to my reading, it does not.
Ripard Tegs blog is covered by normal freedom of expression. If he had mentioned at any point Erotica1s real legal identity, that would have been a different matter, but he has not, so it is not.
Furthermore Ripard Teg did not post even once in the threadnaught. The thread is only representative of those who participated in it. Nor did the threadnaught occur on Ripards site, it occured here, on CCPs pages.

2)Your chicken and egg argument falls on the point, that if Erotica1 had not been doing this stuff, to such a degree, for so long, NONE of this would have followed.

CSMs have stated they are satisfied Erotica1 was given due process, and their support of the CCP statement is written into the statement itself.

Its ironic, and transparent, to the extreme, that the same people who tried to claim Erotica1 was the subject of a witch-hunt, are now trying to instigate a witch-hunt themselves on Ripard Teg.

It wont work :)

Internet lawyering much? Tell me once where I or anyone else in this thread or the threadnaught said that Ripard was attempting to reveal the true identity of erotica? In adition where did I ever say anything about ripard posting in the threadnaught or even how its relevant to this argument?

But of course ripard has a totally good reason for not responding to sohkar's attempts at communication with him. Right? I mean if he doesn't have anything to hide why isn't he talking? Why not respond to the mail that sohkar sent him? Why not post to defend his position?

If you don't believe ripard is hiding anything, I hear the Brooklyn bridge is for sale. I'll sell it to you for 10B isk. Interested?