Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Not like its that useful in wormholes as it is anyhow (currently).

I guess I have to ask: How useful is it in WH's now? Really? And why would you use a Nestor(with cov cloak) for any of it's bonused roles when another, cheaper ship would do it better? Cov ops scans far better, as would a T3, IIRC. Logi may not rep as much, but rep ALOT farther and have alot more capacitor flexibility, but you also have triage which can be fit and fielded for not much more than a nestor hull alone, and do a far better job of it. Standard T1 bs do better damage, or at least very comparable for 1/6 the price.... What would a cov ops cloak do for this ship that would give it any reason to be used over a more specialized ship?


Wouldn't it be more useful being able to jump around as new WH's opened up without having to run the risk of being tackled on gates? I realize this isn't as big a deal in high sec, but as soon as it leaves high sec.... how well can this ship really get around to get to WH's?


I think you also over-estimate the Nestor in comparison to the other BLops. It would be tough, but not massively OP. It's rep and drones abilities would also fit in very nicely with current BLops fleets, but would not overshadow any of the others. Blops may not be able to reach 40k armor like other BS, and may have their damage gimped, but they shouldn't be underestimated either, especially in the hands of practiced pilots.

The nestor is also themed to search and rescue and 'exploration.' A Jump drive fits these themes just as much, if not more than a covert ops cloak. See below:



A covert cloak may let it warp covertly but it would still be able to be bubbled, decloaked, and pointed. A jump drive may require a cyno, but gives it alot more mobility to fit that exploration idea.






With bonuses to scan probes and relic/data analyzers? I should hope not.






As has been said by so many people:





^ is how to fix the Nestor.

IDK, I don't see how the Cov ops cloak would resolve anything with the Nestor when it's still one of the most expensive faction BS out there and every one of it's bonuses can be done by something else, better. At least a jump drive let's it fill a niche role which BLops have been wanting for a long time: something that can jump with them, geared toward support, that isn't necessarily a carrier. Cov Ops cloaks are also ALOT of power, whether peeps want to agree with that or not.

And once the interceptor has tackled it it makes no difference whether the nestor warps in cloaked, uncloaked, or painted bright pink.

In that role the ability to warp cloaked adds no additional combat power whatsoever.
The ability to warp cloaked does not add combat power to the nestor in any way!

It adds travel power, a completely different thing.

It lets it work in wormholes. Period. Without it it will never be adopted by those who live and use wormhole space.

Any yes das boot is a very good analogy for wormhole living, we live and die by stealth.

I am sorry you did not understand.

lets try another analogy , to see if i can make things even clearer.

Would one take ones loud, drunken, fat, uncle in the hawaiian shirt out hunting wolves at night?

That would not end well.

Neither would travelling with the nestor.


So CCP either give the Nestor a covert ops cloak, or arrange for some lore based accident, that requires a recall of the ship and reimburses those who bought it, and just give it a decent burial and we will all try to forget it ever was born so horribly crippled and deformed.and just remember it for the good things.

Well it was white. Do you remember how the shadows played across it's hull? Such beauty! Aah Poor Nestor, what a pity you died so young.