Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Stations could be destructible as long as there is an alternative to using them. However that alternative should not take away from the appeal of gaining a station. If a station is destroyed rather than conquered; all assets should be destroyed/dropped. conquered stations assets should be seized.

-Remove TCUs and IHUBs, They force groups to take vast amounts of space that are not needed in order to deter invasions by smaller/larger groups. Hiding behind a sea of timers hurts the game. Makes taking sov far too difficult. (-A- is an example of a group that does this.)

-Jump Bridge Networks should be hit with a nerf bat. They should be capable of only sending very few ships through. Should be its own structure like a mobile structure not attached to a POS Tower. The main reason this is needed is because currently a power block can too easily project all their power. It is far more difficult to use titans then a JB network.

-Pos Towers really need to be shot in the face and replaced with something better.

If you would like to discuss some ideas and thoughts let me know. I use TS, Vent ingame voice ect.

My History: I’ve played eve off and on since 2003. I've been an industrial, lowsec pirate, lived in all space including WH space, and I was a successful corp ceo and alliance diplo.

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Three new FOBs (Forward Operating Base)

FOB
Small FOB can house up to 4,
Med FOB can house up to 8, is upgradeable
Large FOB can house up to 16, is upgradeable

Requires Fuel

Must be anchored in orbit of a moon

Can be destroyed, including any occupants inside.

RF timers: same as Pocos

Access to Items will be locked but ships will not be locked down if in RF mode.

Defense: Should it have some?

You can Dock

Kickout undock radius.

All Storage Capacities will be shared. Includes 1 Corporate Hanger that everyone who is assigned to the FOB can access.

Upgrades:
Medical Facility: acts like a clone vat bay.
Repair Facility: repairs your ship. should require a resource to use.

purpose: to provide a path for smaller groups to live and take advantage of low - 0.0 space without damaging the relevance of a POS Tower. more conflict drivers.

Positives:
Removes a wall preventing small groups from entering 0.0
More Conflict

Negatives:
Hurts the relevance of SoV if people can just move in.
Could make WH living too easy.

• as long as it can't house too many fighters - that bit's fine
• how would access to these be decided? first come first served, first come reserves their spot, launcher's decision?
• I kinda like that they're around planets - but actually - no I don't - that fucks up too many warp-ins, POCO's are just about acceptable because they're not a player base.... these are traps waiting to happen, maybe make it go around a moon - but not dependent upon POS placement
• RF timers - no comment - no real experience
• locking down access to items, but keeping access to ships - kinda like it - I presume these are designed to be an upgrade from depots, but a step down from POS?
• fuel - what - where's it coming from - and I don't think ice would be a good idea here - that's aimed at higher end stuff - maybe some of the PI like O2 and coolant, synthetic fuel, etc?
• kickout undock radius - please explain further
• clone facility - you ARE aware we currently have no real link with dust? and I presume this works the same sort of way as clone vat bays because otherwise, I see people abusing the system to get JC's in WH's, stagnating that scene further...
• repair bay - rather like this
• corp hangar - so that means every player using this automatically gets an individual hangar - and this allows access to a corp hangar?
• fighter bay - covered at top - what does it need to construct
• poker hall - only when the same is brought in for highsec stations - what does it need to construct

upgrades, I'm thinking should take a couple of hours to install (probably something like 3 hrs to fully upgrade if you've got all the bits already on hand), so people can't show up and instantly have a fully upgraded FOB
a POS takes an hour just to online the main stick, never mind all the extra bits.

feed me more info - I'm watching this thread.

Yes PI like 02/coolant ect. The FOB should be far cheaper to fuel then a POS.


To be unsafe like a tower to use as a midpoint for cynos. Players will lite a cyno on a station with a large undock radios because he/she cannot be bumped off or destroyed before being able to dock.


I am aware there is no real link to DUST sadly but CCP would like it to be someday. Yes it would work like a clone vat bay. It will not work in WH space.


Correct, It creates a single shared corporate hanger.


lower end capital construction parts. Materials should make sense and not break the economy.

updated 3/29/2014

I will continue to add on and update this until it feels sound and very much worth implementing.

the uselessness of fighters. I agree they are very useless especially to a group that will just kill them and then RF the thing. however anything more powerful would be OP like a POS Tower. It should not be more difficult to RF then a Poco.

Upgrades no the FOB can only be plopped down on a moons orbit like a tower. If its in the way of a player wanting to put a tower down...you got to destroy it.

Destroying the FOB if someone is docked...you guessed it you die and everything can drop like any other starbase structure.

adding something that is simple to understand and use yet creating dozens of new conflict drivers is the goal. however what i've proposed is no more complex than a POS Tower or issuing roles and infact it's simpler.

I think that CCP should include environmental landscaping with POS structures.

For example in one mission I seen a mining base that had been into the side of a asteroid. Other structural add-ons would come in the form of Cargo Platforms, various types of docked ships, etc, that would give the POS some life.

It would be awesome if POS structures were able to be built in this manner so a POS could be really something to look at and admire for its size and girth.

The idea isn't entirely bad.

At it's core, a destructible mini-station that offers finite hangars to a finite number of players (in competition with proper sov-based indestructible stations that offer infinite hangars to infinite numbers of players) is kind of cool. It could really open up the meta, giving small groups a toehold more significant than a POS... but those living out of them would take a lot more risk, since they could be destroyed fairly easily.

Unfortunately, you didn't stop there, and just started shoveling on unrelated random ideas. Mandatory EVE-DUST transactions to keep the clone bay stocked, PI-based repair blocks, autonomous fighter-based defence, and (as if to underscore the ridiculous nature of the whole thing) WiS-type poker rooms? Yeah, those extras are the bits that make the idea bad.

I have updated the OP. Please keep providing feedback if you would like to see something like this in EvE someday.

I think a drone hive or fighter hanger inside the Shield is a good idea as a separate structure - It allows a smaller POS to respond to long ranged attacks outside the range of the static guns.

The game is complicated enough without having 3 different sizes to match each POS - so perhaps just limiting it to one unit that controls 5 fighters at once, regardless of the size. For consistency, it should be limited to 0.4 or less security space though.

However, perhaps there could three sizes of drone hives for POS - controlling 5 drones of the applicable size at once (althrough they would hold far more as spares/cannon fodder).

As for the FOB idea, it's not hard to fit a small tower in a cloaked industrial.

I'm thinking that perhaps the space ports of PI could hold one ship at a time by that player, allowing industrials to bypass the customs taxes ?

I kinda like that idea of drones for POS defense. The POS tower alone is **** for moving groups into space if they have to share a room.