Player Features and Ideas Discussion

To fix a problem it has to be first acknowledged that one exists... It's clear to (almost) everyone that the Nestor needs a complete revamp. And therein lies the problem...

I don't think it needs a complete revamp. I little more grid... and maybe the covert cloak would be just fine.

the covert cloak has to be the single worst idea in existence for this ship. Seriously, a battleship is GOING to get de-cloaked by fast tackle when traveling about 60% of the time. 95% if its in a bubble.

A jump drive is the only viable solution for an exploration based revamp.


otherwise they could leave it as is and just crank up the drop rate on the chips until the price drops.

The covert cloak thing comes up a lot. The power of the cloaking device is incredible. As such, ships that can cloak are generally gimp compared to ones that cannot.
Stealth Bombers are terrible in prolonged combat compared to AFs.
Recons have less tank and EHP than HACs.
The Stratios has one less drone than its counterpart the Gila.
Cloaky T3s have much less damage and weaker weapon subsystems than non cloaky ones.
Black Ops are straight up inferior to T1 BS when actually fighting.

Cloaks allow their owners to choose when they want to engage in combat. Cloaky ships trade out combat effectiveness for this advantage. A cloaky Nestor would have to be redesigned to be worse than it currently is. Its not a simple solution. Keeping it at its current power level and giving it a cloak would not be acceptable. It would be the most powerful thing under cloak in the game by a very very wide margin. CCP are not going to do this.


The jump drive thing would be cool for carebears. However we run into the same issue. It would be by far the most powerful BS with a jump drive by a very very wide margin. Black Ops are worse than T1 BS. The Nestor is better than a T1 BS. All the Black Ops would be instantly obsolete and you would have fleets of these things dropping on people. CCP isn't going to do that.


This ship desperately needs something from CCP. It either needs a higher drop rate to push the price way down, or it needs a redesign with a focused vision.

I like the idea of covert ops in nestor.

Covert ops cloak is unlikely to happen for a lot of reasons.

A short range jump drive though could make the ship very useful without being OP and help to justify the price on it, infact making it essentially a faction black ops so to speak even could make sense though I've not thought that through.

I'd still like to see the RR range extended a little more through ~24km feels more right to me than ~16.

I see what everyone means about how it could use a jump drive- but really, I say Covert Ops because:

-Ship lines should be kept consistent- Astero: exploration+cloaky; Stratios: Exploration+cloaky; Nestor: BAD LOGI and nothing good anywhere else.

-The Nestor is supposedly for wormholes, and the covert ops cloak would make it usable there.

-It wouldn't make it as overpowered as people seem to think: it wouldn't get a recalibration time reduction+ it has BS scan res- it would not be crazy overpowered, and it could really make use of the cloak in its stated focus- WORMHOLES. Without a cloak like this, nobody would consider using it over a T3 or some other ship.

-Anyone you attacked after decloaking would have a HUGE amount of time to get away, and the Nestor is a BS, so it aligns slowly as is.

I think many of you have an unrealistic opinion as to the power that a covert cloak might give the Nestor.. It's very likely that the cloak would end up sucking all the resources from the ship and gimping it as to mounting other necessary modules. There is a way to do this right. I think SOE should have some standards...covert cloaking should be a standard go on an SOE ship.

But then it'd be more powerful than any black ops in the game- and don't get me wrong- its not like it wouldn't be fun, but it wouldn't make any sense at all to give it one when its stated focus is wormholes- it'd be useless there

It's not much of a battleship.