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Missile attack battlecruiser
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sprototles Ganzo
Big Fat Panda Corporation
#1 - 2014-03-12 07:49:12 UTC
So we have 4 attack BC
2 hybrid : talos and naga
1 projectile: tornado
1 laser: oracle
Well, where is missile attack BC ?

My bonuses:
5% reduction torpedo and cruisers explosion radius
5% increase torpedo and cruisers explosion velocity

p.s. Drone attack BC would be impressive too

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#2 - 2014-03-12 08:10:52 UTC
Ask CCP Rise where the RHML-baesd battlecruiser is...

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#3 - 2014-03-12 08:50:26 UTC
Naga was originally designed as a Torpedo Boat and no one liked it. That's probably why there is no launcher ABC and considering the hatelove for the RLML/RHML and general dislike towards missiles for many reasons, I doubt that this changed in the meantime.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#4 - 2014-03-12 09:57:04 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Naga was originally designed as a Torpedo Boat and no one liked it. That's probably why there is no launcher ABC and considering the hatelove for the RLML/RHML and general dislike towards missiles for many reasons, I doubt that this changed in the meantime.

They could easily change it to cruise missiles now.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2014-03-12 10:56:33 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Naga was originally designed as a Torpedo Boat and no one liked it. That's probably why there is no launcher ABC and considering the hatelove for the RLML/RHML and general dislike towards missiles for many reasons, I doubt that this changed in the meantime.

They could easily change it to cruise missiles now.



Or, they could leave it as a ship people actually use.
Jureth22
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-03-12 11:43:16 UTC
pirate attack bc`s.they could fill in this lost role
scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
#7 - 2014-03-27 19:10:28 UTC
Well see... something like that would require CCP to give more than 0 fucks about the state of missiles. That's asking too much, so sit back and be happy with a meh Drake, or a slower than **** rolling up hill Raven while you train a more useful weapon.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#8 - 2014-03-27 21:16:11 UTC
it would probably become the most under used ABC in the game...

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scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
#9 - 2014-03-27 21:58:16 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
it would probably become the most under used ABC in the game...

Only because no one at CCP has the testicular fortitude to give missiles some of the love that they oh-so-dearly need.
But that's just my opinion as a missile pilot and forum browser.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#10 - 2014-03-27 22:11:11 UTC
yeah thats it...Roll

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#11 - 2014-03-27 23:37:00 UTC
Does anyone actually use the Naga?

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scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
#12 - 2014-03-27 23:58:28 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Does anyone actually use the Naga?

From my experience in Incursions, it's a somewhat acceptable starter ship for unfortunate Caldari pilots who don't have a Vindi yet.
Claud Tiberius
#13 - 2014-03-28 00:08:36 UTC
sprototles Ganzo wrote:
So we have 4 attack BC
2 hybrid : talos and naga
1 projectile: tornado
1 laser: oracle
Well, where is missile attack BC ?

My bonuses:
5% reduction torpedo and cruisers explosion radius
5% increase torpedo and cruisers explosion velocity

p.s. Drone attack BC would be impressive too

Comment and comment again


I think its because missiles are a different kind of animal all together.

For example, all the bombers use missiles (torpedoes/cruise missiles) and have no turrets.

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
#14 - 2014-03-28 00:37:16 UTC
Claud Tiberius wrote:
sprototles Ganzo wrote:
So we have 4 attack BC
2 hybrid : talos and naga
1 projectile: tornado
1 laser: oracle
Well, where is missile attack BC ?

My bonuses:
5% reduction torpedo and cruisers explosion radius
5% increase torpedo and cruisers explosion velocity

p.s. Drone attack BC would be impressive too

Comment and comment again


I think its because missiles are a different kind of animal all together.

For example, all the bombers use missiles (torpedoes/cruise missiles) and have no turrets.

I don't think that is a fair comparison at all, but assuming it were I would even back an arty based SB. Take a SB, let it fit 1200s or 1400s, give it a tracking bonus instead of a missile bonus, and let it roll. Torp SBs decloak and roll missiles up your ass and an arty SB decloaks and shoots Quake right in your face. I would happily trade that for a good Tier 3 missile BC. At least then I would be able to use a decent missile (cruise) in some C4 sites without crashing a hole with a Raven.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#15 - 2014-03-28 00:38:46 UTC
Claud Tiberius wrote:
For example, all the bombers use missiles (torpedoes/cruise missiles) and have no turrets.

I want your bomber. Lol

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#16 - 2014-03-28 00:47:32 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Does anyone actually use the Naga?


are u for real?

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#17 - 2014-03-28 00:56:28 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Does anyone actually use the Naga?

I use a Naga. It's quite effective when used as a very long range support sniper for small gangs. And it also works quite well as a medium range gank ship in low-sec (Neutron Blasters and Null ammo ftw!).

How did you Veterans start?
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#18 - 2014-03-28 01:02:04 UTC
Maybe a new type of Missile Boat that would only be able to deploy Missile Attack Drones. Something different and interesting to fit up and then use.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-03-28 02:09:47 UTC
Problem with this concept is torp speed vs target speed. Turrets put damage on instantly. ABC's live by kiting. Torps take forever to go anywhere, and would be completely ineffective.


Naga is actually fairly good as it is. IIRC needs a bit more PG, but certainly not torps.

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scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
#20 - 2014-03-28 02:23:57 UTC
Kenrailae wrote:
Problem with this concept is torp speed vs target speed. Turrets put damage on instantly. ABC's live by kiting. Torps take forever to go anywhere, and would be completely ineffective.


Naga is actually fairly good as it is. IIRC needs a bit more PG, but certainly not torps.

That seems like more of an ammunition problem than a hull problem to me, and part of a list of small problems that add up to missiles being unacceptably neglected.
Besides, a missile Naga should be able to fit both cruise and torp launchers unless turrets are going to have monopoly on short and long range Tier 3s.
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