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dead systems, scanning

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#1 - 2014-03-25 21:29:53 UTC
why not have dead systems, where the sun has exploded or just become a a Brown dwarf (which emits nearly no light), where u navigate by sensors... some planets may still be there, but the hole system is a big mess... On the otherside, it can yeild a large profit. Only found by New skill, long range scanning, where u can scan hole areas betwene systems.

Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-03-25 21:32:40 UTC
If national geographic / discovery channel taught me anything, iirc anyways, it is that when a star is dying it basically swallows the entire solar system.
Also, we do have long range scanning, its called probing.
Also, its called wormholes.
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#3 - 2014-03-25 21:43:12 UTC
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
If national geographic / discovery channel taught me anything, iirc anyways, it is that when a star is dying it basically swallows the entire solar system.
Also, we do have long range scanning, its called probing.
Also, its called wormholes.


Well ure actually correct about the sun, in some scenarios. But With small stars, they dont blow up the system, that happens With big stars. Next to go boom in Our local Space, is betelguese. When it goes, it WILL destroy the hole system... and some more.
But one thing EVE has shown me it is that Logic and physics dont apply in EVE.

All scanning in EVE, is Limited within the borders of the system. Im thinking scanning outside the borders of systems.

And wormhole Space aint in the vicinity of k-Space. Im thinking dead systems scatterd around betwne systems in high, low and nullsec.


Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-03-25 21:53:32 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
If national geographic / discovery channel taught me anything, iirc anyways, it is that when a star is dying it basically swallows the entire solar system.
Also, we do have long range scanning, its called probing.
Also, its called wormholes.


Well ure actually correct about the sun, in some scenarios. But With small stars, they dont blow up the system, that happens With big stars. Next to go boom in Our local Space, is betelguese. When it goes, it WILL destroy the hole system... and some more.
But one thing EVE has shown me it is that Logic and physics dont apply in EVE.

All scanning in EVE, is Limited within the borders of the system. Im thinking scanning outside the borders of systems.

And wormhole Space aint in the vicinity of k-Space. Im thinking dead systems scatterd around betwne systems in high, low and nullsec.




So what you propose is that we somehow "melt" together systems?
Theres a reason these limitations are in place, its a game, its running on hardware, if we had actualy space you could fly to and anomalies between solar systems, that would be a hundred levels above what the EVE universe is able to do at the moment.
Like no matter if you went at the speed of light for a billion years, you would never be able to fly manually from one sun to another within EVE, its not possible.
So what youre asking for is that they place anomalies further out, within the existing systems, but you have to realize this has other consequences, back in the day people had safespots that were extremely far out of the way, these were removed as it was not exactly good gameplay, these "sites" would basically be making these extremely safe safespots again, not good gameplay.
Sarah McKnobbo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-03-27 16:01:34 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
why not have dead systems, where the sun has exploded or just become a a Brown dwarf (which emits nearly no light), where u navigate by sensors...


You do this in your pod anyway...
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#6 - 2014-03-27 16:04:18 UTC
Fortunately CCP setup a place where random ideas (both good and bad) can be proffered and discussed:

--> Features & Ideas Discussion

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Spectre Wraith
Darwin Inc.
#7 - 2014-03-27 16:07:12 UTC
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
If national geographic / discovery channel taught me anything, iirc anyways, it is that when a star is dying it basically swallows the entire solar system.
Also, we do have long range scanning, its called probing.
Also, its called wormholes.


Actually, there are many different stages in which stars can still be somewhat intact after their normal lifecycle has passed. There are stars and systems such as magnetars, pulsars, and white dwarfs that have been detected to still contain orbital bodies within their systems. Our own star will most likely become a white dwarf once it has ballooned up into a red giant, engulfing all the planets out to Mars, then blow off it's mass into a white dwarf. There may or may not be small remant cores of Earth/Venus/Mars left after, however the gas giants will survive, unscathed, and will continue to orbit the solar white dwarf.

Dear lord, please help me deal with the insufferable....

Bruce Kemp
x13
#8 - 2014-03-27 16:28:48 UTC
Are there any binary systems in eve?
Spectre Wraith
Darwin Inc.
#9 - 2014-03-27 17:39:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Spectre Wraith
Bruce Kemp wrote:
Are there any binary systems in eve?


Some of the Wspace systems represent binary systems, although perhaps not conventionally, as you can warp to the main celestial star, but are unable to warp to or target, in any way, the binary of the system. The systems that give bonus to shields (sorry, I don't recall of the top of my head atm) show a far off star in the system, and the blackhole systems can also be considered as binary, although not in the practical sense (as binary usually infers 2 stars), the blackhole itself however is a large gravity well that is remnant of a star, so technically, it is a binary system. I also don't recall if the wolf-rayet systems show a secondary WR star in the background or not...but I think you get the picture, the sister of the systems main star in those systems is merely for looks and nonfunctional in a way a normal star is, in the sense that it merely serves as a backdrop for system effects.

There has been mention of binary systems upcoming in the new expansion. These systems may be the ones players can build gates to, by utilising a slingshot effect, or the gates which can be built are based on the gravimetrics of the binary systems. There is a blog that was posted recently about a certain NPC corp announcing it had developed a new technology based on binary start systems and that they had somehow harnessed the ability to create player made gates which can reach them.

I would look into that story, it does have something to do with the summer expansion.

Dear lord, please help me deal with the insufferable....

Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#10 - 2014-03-29 12:14:33 UTC
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
If national geographic / discovery channel taught me anything, iirc anyways, it is that when a star is dying it basically swallows the entire solar system.
Also, we do have long range scanning, its called probing.
Also, its called wormholes.


Well ure actually correct about the sun, in some scenarios. But With small stars, they dont blow up the system, that happens With big stars. Next to go boom in Our local Space, is betelguese. When it goes, it WILL destroy the hole system... and some more.
But one thing EVE has shown me it is that Logic and physics dont apply in EVE.

All scanning in EVE, is Limited within the borders of the system. Im thinking scanning outside the borders of systems.

And wormhole Space aint in the vicinity of k-Space. Im thinking dead systems scatterd around betwne systems in high, low and nullsec.




So what you propose is that we somehow "melt" together systems?
Theres a reason these limitations are in place, its a game, its running on hardware, if we had actualy space you could fly to and anomalies between solar systems, that would be a hundred levels above what the EVE universe is able to do at the moment.
Like no matter if you went at the speed of light for a billion years, you would never be able to fly manually from one sun to another within EVE, its not possible.
So what youre asking for is that they place anomalies further out, within the existing systems, but you have to realize this has other consequences, back in the day people had safespots that were extremely far out of the way, these were removed as it was not exactly good gameplay, these "sites" would basically be making these extremely safe safespots again, not good gameplay.



*Like no matter if you went at the speed of light for a billion years, you would never be able to fly manually from one sun to another within EVE, its not possible.*

some years ago 2 player actually flew from one sun to another With Warp probes, they went to Jove Space. There is a video on youtube about that.
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#11 - 2014-03-29 12:15:18 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Fortunately CCP setup a place where random ideas (both good and bad) can be proffered and discussed:

--> Features & Ideas Discussion




it was ment to be in that section, but somehow i f.. that up and posted it here... so my fault. sorry
Sevendeadly Sins
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-03-29 16:41:40 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
If national geographic / discovery channel taught me anything, iirc anyways, it is that when a star is dying it basically swallows the entire solar system.
Also, we do have long range scanning, its called probing.
Also, its called wormholes.


Well ure actually correct about the sun, in some scenarios. But With small stars, they dont blow up the system, that happens With big stars. Next to go boom in Our local Space, is betelguese. When it goes, it WILL destroy the hole system... and some more.
But one thing EVE has shown me it is that Logic and physics dont apply in EVE.

All scanning in EVE, is Limited within the borders of the system. Im thinking scanning outside the borders of systems.

And wormhole Space aint in the vicinity of k-Space. Im thinking dead systems scatterd around betwne systems in high, low and nullsec.




So what you propose is that we somehow "melt" together systems?
Theres a reason these limitations are in place, its a game, its running on hardware, if we had actualy space you could fly to and anomalies between solar systems, that would be a hundred levels above what the EVE universe is able to do at the moment.
Like no matter if you went at the speed of light for a billion years, you would never be able to fly manually from one sun to another within EVE, its not possible.
So what youre asking for is that they place anomalies further out, within the existing systems, but you have to realize this has other consequences, back in the day people had safespots that were extremely far out of the way, these were removed as it was not exactly good gameplay, these "sites" would basically be making these extremely safe safespots again, not good gameplay.



*Like no matter if you went at the speed of light for a billion years, you would never be able to fly manually from one sun to another within EVE, its not possible.*

some years ago 2 player actually flew from one sun to another With Warp probes, they went to Jove Space. There is a video on youtube about that.

Linky please, I need to see this.

http://www.zombo.com

Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-03-29 16:50:38 UTC
Because Blood Raider Prisons do not naturally occur in nature. Nobody has an interest in a dead system, and as such no gates are built to them.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

CERA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
#14 - 2014-03-29 17:10:39 UTC
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
If national geographic / discovery channel taught me anything, iirc anyways, it is that when a star is dying it basically swallows the entire solar system.
Also, we do have long range scanning, its called probing.
Also, its called wormholes.

Its called wikipedia, which can be accessed via Google, which by the way, is totally free and is very accessible.
Niddengolliah
Limit Everyone Nowhere Kingdom
#15 - 2014-03-30 01:04:56 UTC
Sevendeadly Sins wrote:

Linky please, I need to see this.


This is what you are looking for I think.