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Gusto Gal
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-03-26 19:51:56 UTC
It seems that FW consists of lots of farmers who only want to get LP for complex, but don't want to fight. IMO FW is about pvp and not farming. I could be wrong, but I thought that was the idea.

Proposal:
1. Significantly decrease LP for Complex changes, but increase standing change.
2. Increase LP payout for kills based upon Rank of the person doing the kill.

Net idea: Capping continues but gives little effect for farmers, to get real LP you must fight. The more you cap, the better the multiplier for combat killing LP.

As it is, I very much understand why people farm rather than fight. I can cap a complex for 25k and not chance anything, but I fight an equal sized cruiser and only get 1600 lp. Not much incentive to fight when complex farming makes tons more LP.
Gigan Amilupar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-03-26 20:20:54 UTC
Complex LP was added to give people a reason to actually do it. The general consensus though is that CCP did swing too far in that direction. Increasing LP payouts for combat, or at least shifting some of the complex LP payout over to combat would be a good thing IMO. Complexes need to be important, but I think people should also be motivated to take fights.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-03-26 22:15:02 UTC
So instead of frigs in complexes, you want to see nothing but bombers farming missions, right?
Gusto Gal
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-03-26 22:50:10 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
So instead of frigs in complexes, you want to see nothing but bombers farming missions, right?


Couple of issues on that:

1. Bombers cannot go to Novice Complexes.
2. Bombers die easily
3. If bombers are such a problem why are they not farming in bombers currently? Why use a venture to farm when you could use a bomber?


Complex combat can still occur as is, you just get paid more for combat.

FW missions are supposed to be risky due to the fact that everyone can see the gate which is created as a result of your mission. They still have their gate restrictions, but with this there is actual reason to come fight a player in a mission.

If you are complaining that more fights will break out in FW and that concerns you. FW may not be the place for you.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2014-03-26 22:54:36 UTC
They ARE using bombers to farm. Missions, not complexes. For tens of thousands of LP at a time, for something stupid like 120 million isk/hour. You'd just encourage people to do that more rather than PLEX.
Gusto Gal
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-03-27 13:43:47 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
They ARE using bombers to farm. Missions, not complexes. For tens of thousands of LP at a time, for something stupid like 120 million isk/hour. You'd just encourage people to do that more rather than PLEX.


Well dang and I am missing those kills.

Perhaps the multiplier for kills only should work in a plex. That would keep the mission issue from getting worse.
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#7 - 2014-03-27 21:39:28 UTC
Factional warfare is fine.Stealth bombers die easily and can t do most level 4 missions since CCP changed the difficulty and small ships fall like a burned paper.Trust me.The only thing I might would like to see is if someones enters a plex only one more should enter so game would be less ganking.

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!