EVE General Discussion

While I agree with this statement, planets themselves are already better in null sec, so a lot of high sec PI is done solely upgrading tiers of PI stuff. Now think about this: The old tax was low enough to where there was enough profit margin to do this. So if theres no benefits to having manufacturing planets in null sec, then why would you set them up (outside of necessary POS fuel). Why not pull as much T1/T2 PI as you can off your planet and just sell that every month or two?

Player Owned custom offices in low sec? I don't know. I would have gone with factional COs there and offer maybe a 3% tax rate. At least in null sec you can set up cyno jammers and have some actual control of your system. What do you do if some ******* decides to drop 5 dreads or so on your CO and throw it into reinforced in 2-3 minutes? How does a small corp fight such griefing? At least with POSs you can throw 12+ hardeners on there so it takes more dedication to destroy them, but custom offices have no resists. I guess we can only see how this will play out.

And the inflation/price increase thing: it is inflation when more money is chasing the same amount of goods (IE isk faucets are overflowing,), and a price increase is less specific (think squares and rectangles; not all rectangles are squares, but all squares are rectangles). A price increase can come from increased demand, decreased supply, increase in the "cost of doing business", inflation, etc. In this case, because the cost of using PI is going up, the supply will probably decrease, and the cost of extracting those goods will be reflected directly in their price.

But like John said, adapt or die. People will readjust their PI, make more efficient setups in high sec that don't require as much importing and exporting.

Are you stupid? Or just bad at math?

The taxes may seem "excessive" if you calculate based on the current sell prices of PI goods.

FREE HINT: The "current" sell price of PI goods will spike. By at least 10-15%.

At that point, the buyers of your goods are going to be the ones paying the tax you pay and life goes on. Get a spreadsheet up, calculate what you make now, factor in the taxes you have to pay and figure out the required sell price of the goods to cover that tax (and a bit more, like all good capitalists do), then keep stockpiling your PI end products until the market price reaches that level. Sell. PROFIT.

L2P EVE Market PVP.

Most savy players already saw this coming a mile away and stockpiled on PI goods they need to consume (hence they already went up at least by 5% and they are still climbing).

If anything, bunch of other PI producers who ARE bad at math will give up, reducing supply, allowing you to jack up prices even higher! All you have to do is not to sell at below your cost. Excel (or Google Docs) = the EVE addon.

What he says ^^^

By turning up the tax to 17% you have killed PI for weeks or worse. People need the time to setup their own POCO's. I can read all the wiki's you post, but that doesn't change the chaos you guys created for PI.

I make robotics and many more stuff. If the prices go up, I might sell it for a higher price, but if I use it for the pos fuel, I am just [paying more to keep it running. Thats why i said for weeks... people need time to setup their own poco's first. And the fact they can be shot is a good thing for me in WH space. Shooting our POCO's = pvp action

I fueled my POS from two systems next to each other. Just saying. I had one other toon trained that fed me stuff from three more planets in one system so I could make an advanced lab from scratch.

Found a system last week that had everything needed for POS fuel in one system, high sec too. Low volume from the planets would mean you'd have to watch the extractors though, short cycles starting every 6 - 8 hours, too much backside pain but yeah.

Awesome fix, this will really make the POCO's a viable option, in fact it my even favorise the creation of "low tax" havens in low-sec areas adjacent to high -sec, corps who want to play on the "organized crime" or "protectorate" style have a lot of new opportunities now.

And of course it equilibrates the difference between null/low-sec and high-sec, god knows they need it.


@CCPDEVS : I don't know if you considered this, but establishing a system in a future patch where the base tax is adjusted to the market price at each downtime would be awesome.


Anyway keep on the good work !

Absolutely, people are definitely going to stop flying T2 and supercapital ships just because they cost 17% more.

You're really not very bright, are you. If you're going to be silly enough to use real life as a comparison for the game, then the economic impact is felt in other areas of the economy where people have to choose between either not traveling at the increased rates or not spending disposable income in other areas. If you have to save more for the airfare, you spend less eating out, shopping, etc. You'll have a similar effect with small corps and POS ownership now... more isk spent fueling means less available for other things. Corps near break even on what they're doing with the POS will find themselves pushed into the red. Likely a good number will go alternate routes.

A living universe is not stagnant.

You either ride the wave or inhale the whitewater.