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hmm my standings are going down instead of up!
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ginger jon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-03-23 15:56:05 UTC
im trying to get my minmitar standing up as far as i can, so ive been chipping away at the level 4's...

well last week i decided to make a note of my faction standings and have just checked them again now...
ive been doing missions for RPS, most of the time fleeted with my alt so he could get some standings too..

and to my surprise today my minmitar has gone down from 7.79 to 7.59

and my gallante has gone down from 6.37 to 5.51

ive been skipping the missions that are against caldari and ammar navy...

ive also removed a couple of my alts from my corp but i wouldn't have expected that to affect it...

does anyone know why this is happening? thx.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-03-23 16:02:21 UTC
In the game open the character sheet, open the standing menu, double click the faction you want to investigate, this should give you a list of recent standing changes.

It will give you a list of recent events that have modified your standing, such as missions and engaging in combat.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#3 - 2014-03-23 16:02:35 UTC
Did you decline a mission within the cool-down period of the last mission you declined?

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
ginger jon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-03-23 16:11:11 UTC
ty for that useful tip Dexington, i had a look and it says the reason was 'Derived Modification'

so i got the details up and it says "Minmatar Republic was displeased by actions on you performed against Minmatar Republic's friends, or for Minmatar Republic's enemies."

its happened on 2 occasions but i dunno what i did to make it happen...

no Goldie, afaik ive not declined any mission to cause me to loose standing, i just get a diff agent while i wait for the time to pass..

grrr :(
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-03-23 16:27:01 UTC
Derived Modification probably means you did something that gave you caldari or amarr faction standing, and as a result you lost minmatar and gallente standing.

You can check the caldari and amarr logs, and see if any time stamps match the time where you got the derived modification, if so it might tell you what exactly you did.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
ginger jon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-03-23 16:34:48 UTC
yeah i ran a couple of mission for Corporate Police Force so im thinkin its probably that, even though i didnt do any of the navy missions... but it looks as though they still altered it...
Velenia Ankletickler
Silverflames
#7 - 2014-03-23 21:36:14 UTC
Any hit you get for an empire / faction standing (Gallente, Minmatar, Amarr, Caldari, SoE, Serpentis etc) will cause derived hits to other empires, positive or negative depending on how they like each other.

Exact math is currently unknown (and wrong in Evelopedia).
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-03-24 01:03:10 UTC
There's a couple of reasons for the negative derived standing hits.

Completing Storyline missions.
Attack / destroy Faction structures / ships.
Declining multiple missions with same agent in a 4 hr time period.


Anyway, 'The Plan' can help repair negative Faction standings as well as help boost positive Faction standings.



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