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PLEX prices need reviewing UK vs US

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Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#41 - 2014-03-21 22:32:11 UTC
ZippyDoDo wrote:
Currently on amazon from CCP...

US customers only - 6 x PLEX - $104 = £62

UK customers - 6 x PLEX = £90

For those bad at math that's a difference of £28

This needs reviewing.



Not sure where CCP keeps its bank accounts. What's the price when you convert dollars or pounds into Icelandic krona?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#42 - 2014-03-21 22:44:31 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Not sure where CCP keeps its bank accounts.
Not on Amazon, that's for sure…
Hells Merc
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2014-03-22 04:44:10 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

Amazon set their own PLEX prices, not us. We have no control over them.

With regards to the difference in price, Chribba is correct.

In the EU, both Amazon and CCP have to display prices inclusive of VAT, however when we sell in the US, we do not have to display sales taxes that may apply on a State or Federal level., and taxes vary drastically from State to State.





What is this "vat" ? sales tax?

Oregon not born and bred but living here and liking it exponentially more when people whine
about such things.
Rhiannon Marius
Marius Family Enterprises Unlimited
#44 - 2014-03-22 04:49:08 UTC
Hells Merc wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

Amazon set their own PLEX prices, not us. We have no control over them.

With regards to the difference in price, Chribba is correct.

In the EU, both Amazon and CCP have to display prices inclusive of VAT, however when we sell in the US, we do not have to display sales taxes that may apply on a State or Federal level., and taxes vary drastically from State to State.





What is this "vat" ? sales tax?

Oregon not born and bred but living here and liking it exponentially more when people whine
about such things.


Value added tax. Kinda works like sales tax.
Thead Enco
Domheimed
#45 - 2014-03-22 04:57:12 UTC
ZippyDoDo wrote:
Currently on amazon from CCP...

US customers only - 6 x PLEX - $104 = £62

UK customers - 6 x PLEX = £90

For those bad at math that's a difference of £28

This needs reviewing.



"Murica!"
Emiko P'eng
#46 - 2014-03-22 15:35:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Emiko P'eng
Othran wrote:
Unfortunately the VAT excuse is bollox as Amazon UK do not pay VAT in the UK on digital purchases. They pay VAT in Luxembourg.

Nor in fact do CCP pay VAT in the UK if you purchase PLEX directly from them. Nor do they pay VAT on monthly subs in the UK.

Anyone want to try some more nonsense excuses for UK peeps being ripped off?

Do try to make more of an effort though, the "tax" excuse has been done to death dozens of times Roll
From the EU Customs & Taxation site

"Importation of goods

Electronically supplied services, provided by suppliers established in a third country to non-taxable persons (B2C) established in the EU, must be taxed at the place where the customer resides or has a permanent address [Article 58 of the VAT Directive]

Example 44: If a private person residing in Sweden makes use of a Japanese on-line library, Swedish VAT will have to be paid on the amount the Japanese company charges.]"

So they might be registered in Luxenbourg but if they deliver your 'Electronic supplied Services" or PLEX to you in the UK then UK 20% VAT is what they have to charge!!
Jason Station
Critical Mass Inc
#47 - 2014-03-22 16:44:38 UTC
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:
It was definitely a culture shock for me when I visited the US, and found out that the prices on the shelves wasn't the price you get charged because you add tax after (disclaimer - this was Miami, no idea if that's the same rules everywhere). How do you guys live like that? I'm good at maths, but it seemed really wierd to have to do sums in your head to figure out what you actually are going to be paying.


Sales taxes are just a plain mess. The state you are in will have a sales tax, but individual cities or even areas within cities can have additional sales taxes (downtown Minneapolis for example). In addition different items have additional (or no) taxes. Alcohol has additional taxes, but clothes are generally not taxed for example. If I recall Arizona had an addition tax for car rentals and such to pay for a stadium when I was there last. In places along state borders people will often commute to the lower taxed state, but that will not work for buying a car as it is taxed to the home state. One thing they are still working on is trying to tax internet sales, but that is still being fought over.

TLDR: Basically you are screwed and live with it.
Serene Repose
#48 - 2014-03-22 16:57:30 UTC
Uh. What's a £?

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#49 - 2014-03-22 17:31:33 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Uh. What's a £?

The symbol derives from a capital "L", representing libra, the basic unit of weight in the Roman Empire, which in turn is derived from the Latin name of the same spelling for scales or a balance. The pound became an English unit of weight and was so named because it originally had the value of one tower pound (~350 grams) of fine (pure) silver. The same origins give us the livre, lire, lbs, and all kinds of “pounds”.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#50 - 2014-03-22 18:27:12 UTC
ZippyDoDo wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Crap. Stumbled onto the Amazon.com forums again.



I really need to watch where I click.


Valid issue which if has been posted before, obviously has not been addressed.




No one forces you to live in Vat-land, or forces you to shop at Amazon for that matter.....Do they?

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Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#51 - 2014-03-24 00:32:13 UTC
Chribba wrote:
In EU they need to add VAT so that's why.

/c


Even when the UK's VAT rate was 20% if all the US prices are non-inclusive of sales tax etc and it is £62 then the VAT inclusive price would have been £12.40 giving you a total price of £74.40 which is still below £90.

It's like when the eve subscription gave me the choice of paying $10 a month or €10 a month. I complained to a GM at the time when they gave me my "welcome to EVE" chat, they gave me some reason for not being able to accept payments in £ but I can't remember what it was.

I'm sure if I asked Amazon and they actually responded they would tell me the price reflects what CCP charges them plus the "going market prices" or some rubbish, and CCP will say Amazon sets the prices so it's nothing to do with them (which doesn't answer the question because they could sell them to Amazon US for £60 and sell them to Amazon UK for £80 and Amazon would still "set the price").

Unless CCP tells us exactly how much they sell PLEX to Amazon US and UK for (which they won't, and why should they?) I'm just going to assume it's just another instance of companies selling things cheaper in the states than here. Maybe CCP is to blame in this specific instance, maybe it's Amazon, regardless though it happens all the time so I font know why the OP isn't used to it.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#52 - 2014-03-24 02:36:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Moonlit Raid
Purchasing all digital products through a US proxy using a virtual credit card registered to a US address so you don't get bummed by companies that can't ******* count = winning. imho.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#53 - 2014-03-24 02:43:33 UTC
The United Kingdom and the rest of the country of Europe being a colony of the United States, they have to pay a tariff to their liege nation,USA.

They'd try to rebel, but we know everything about them.

They try to pretend that they're offended, but they're relieved their big brother is here to look out for them.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#54 - 2014-03-24 04:58:51 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Upon further review, cleaning the thread will reduce the page count too much. As the issue has been brought up before, and addressed, I am leaving it closed. Thank you.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

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