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DNSBLACK for CSM9

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DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad
#101 - 2014-03-20 15:18:14 UTC  |  Edited by: DNSBLACK
Now, as to your questions about SOMER.

First, there is a reason I am being somewhat vague on certain aspects of the SOMER Stink. I can't disclose any communications between myself and CCP. You and I both know that is a clear violation of the EULA.

Secondly, I did not “try” to RMT my character. If I had wanted to RMT DNSBLACK I would have never done so on the forums and announced it to CCP and everyone else. My tactic, which you describe as raising “hell in every way possible (short of actually violating EULA)” was, to a certain degree, exactly that. Persons within CCP, contacts in the CSM, and contacts within the community showed me there was a lot of conflicting opinion on the legitimacy of Somer's RMT actions and what should be done about it.

I had solid information backed by facts and hard numbers that was very critical to the issue at hand. My actions were no more against the EULA at that time them SOMER's were. SOMER, as far as I know, has suffered no sanction other than not being allowed to further RMT with its SOMERblink credits. They still exist in EVE and you can still bet your ISK there.

In your opinion you say you believe “any regular Joe who legitimately tried raffle their character in the way you did would receive a swift kick in the pants.” In short I, as an in game entity, was the first one to “try” the same mechanic that SOMER, an in game entity, had been using for years to make money off of CCP. A player by the name of Katarina Reid was the first successful person to implement that idea.

Why did I “make such a big show of it,” you ask? I made that “big show” because I saw that conflicting opinion within the CSM and within CCP and I believed (and still believe) so strongly that what was happening was undermining the very foundations of our sandbox.

You asked why I wasn't “taken seriously.” I was taken seriously. The CSM and the community were taken seriously. SOMER is not RMTing through SOMERblink credits any more. As for raising a big stink on the forums, you seem to forget a very successful past CSM member by the name of Two Step, who I hold in very high regard, did exactly that in his famous “threadnaught” about POS changes.

I had difficulty demonstrating to CCP that what SOMER was doing was wrong because of the very NDA and “CCP internal communications” issues that every other “private citizen” of EVE faces. If the situation was exactly the same as it was this summer with SOMER, I would face the sanctions I received all over again. I would accept them again as well because I feel that strongly about this game that you and I share.

If I am elected to the CSM I hope that my presence will help eliminate the possibility for something “like” SOMER to happen again. SOMER's RMT didn't “happen” overnight. SOMER had been quietly RMTing under CCP and the CSM's nose for years. It wasn't until community attention (including mine) was focused on SOMER due to the EVE Vegas giveaways that the penny dropped. No one, myself included, even thought to look at this in game entity that was being allowed to make real world money off of in game actions.

Lastly, you are incorrect about me publishing an article on EN24. I never published an article on SOMER on EN24. A very passionate third party came and contacted me after my “hell raising” on the forums and posted an anonymous and unsolicited opinion piece there. The individual seemed quite swayed by my arguments. Riverini ran it. By the same token, Noizygamer ran a piece on themittani.con which laid out the information that I in my own small way along with huge contributions by Argus Sorn, FunkyBacon, James315, and countless others, had helped to uncover. I can not take ownership of that EN24 piece any more than I can take credit for Noizygamer's. Was I involved in the situation? Yes. Would I like to think I helped to shape the discussion and focus attention? Of course. Would I hope to do so in a way that builds fellowship and accord within the community but skips the, as you call it “big stink?” Absolutely. Can I do that on the CSM? I certainly think so and ask for the EVE community's support in making that happen.

​I regularly negotiate labor contracts and other matters that affect people's real life careers and their family's welfare. I intend to bring that same level of professional dedication to the CSM for the benefit of this little video game we play and hope that this can help make CCP more successful. EVE is still the only true money maker CCP has. DUST is, at best, where EVE was ten years ago. Valkyrie is still in development. The vampire thing is barely a maybe. To allow CCP to make a mistake that would destroy EVE. . . which is such a big part of my life now. . . or to destroy the livelihood of it's employees. . .would be unthinkable to me. I will strive to keep that in mind as I represent the EVE community and keep CCP from hopefully making another mistake. A mistake like SOMER, like Incarna, like T20. In addition to providing the voice of the human players of EVE I hope to work on the CSM with CCP to explore new and meaningful ways to communicate with my fellow EVE players. I want CCP to take EVE to the next level while honoring the past and staying true to the purest vision of the Sandbox.

​I hope that I have answered your questions. Trust me when I say that I really didn't enjoy the process of writing this but since you appear to be a person who values the written word I hope that you value the effort I spent here.

​Links:

​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auqyQzgrvIc

​http://www.capstable.net/2014/03/12/csm9dnsblack/

​http://themittani.com/features/more-135k-somer-finances-investigated

​https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=289554[/quote]
Tyrant Scorn
#102 - 2014-03-20 15:35:19 UTC
DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad
#103 - 2014-03-20 15:53:16 UTC
Sorry about that I will add them
Tairon Usaro
G-Fleet Alpha
#104 - 2014-03-20 21:26:41 UTC
Does that mean we do not see you drunk at the alliance pannel ?!? Shocked

Dirt Nap Squad - regardless of what your current standing to them might be - makes your game a better game.
This is valid for the whole entity and particulary valid for their leader DNSBLACK, Brad.

So, Brad is definately my choice for CSM9






PS: Do I get refunded for my vote in jaegerbombs ? Blink
Suductive Lovers
VVIND Mining and Explorations
The Burning Contingent Alliance
#105 - 2014-03-22 20:02:32 UTC
This is the question I have for you.

What would you try to bring to the eve community?

What Ideas do you have to better our experience?

Also a what happen to DNS for it to not be as active as they use to be?
Michele Bachmann
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#106 - 2014-03-22 23:23:23 UTC
Thank you for your response black.

I knew you had it in there somewhere Lol
DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad
#107 - 2014-03-24 21:42:06 UTC  |  Edited by: DNSBLACK
Deiter Amsel wrote:
Ok... so here's a question:

One of the big problems I feel we have in EVE is that you can hop 10,000 guys anywhere in New Eden pretty much instantly.

Materiel movement, supply lines, overstretching, flanking and pretty much any strategic movement and territorial control is irrelevant when you can Titan Bridge people anywhere you can get a cyno.

What's your thoughts on this problem and how would you propose fixing it? Do you think it needs fixing?




I am still looking for my eve 24 news article back to the gates.

DNSBLACK CSM9 5 Video Blog 1 March 24, 2014 5:13 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aTNTzgdXsg

Thanks for watching
Brusanan
Sons of Seyllin
Pirate Lords of War
#108 - 2014-03-24 22:49:24 UTC
As the leader of the only Eve-Dust hybrid alliance left in Dust Planetary Conquest, what changes/additions would you like to see made to strengthen the Eve-Dust connection (preferably on the Eve side)?
Lanctharus Onzo
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#109 - 2014-03-25 01:00:54 UTC
CSM9 Candidate Interview: DNSBlack
http://capstable.net/2014/03/12/csm9dnsblack

Executive Editor, CSM Watch || Writer, Co-host of the Cap Stable Podcast || Twitter: @Lanctharus

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#110 - 2014-03-25 01:10:27 UTC
Don't know what DNSBlack stands for generally and probably won't vote for him, but I respect his actions around the SOMER Blink scandal.

His actions there were a small part toward helping close the main loophole through which RMT was possible within CCP's rules.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Annaeliza
State War Academy
Caldari State
#111 - 2014-03-25 04:54:52 UTC
You have described yourself as a champion for the community & players in all areas of EVE.

Do you think that CCP needs better engagement with it's customers ie the players? If so, what proposals or plans do you have to improve on this? . Being that so much of the SOMER thing came out of mishandling a community event (in game swag @ EVE Vegas), what are your feelings on CCP's community events and what improvements would you recommend to CCP? What role do you see for the CSM in CCP's community relations? Should the CSM be involved in community relations beyond it's current role? Last, what do you think about in game live events and should CCP bother to devote resources towards them?
Deiter Amsel
Doomheim
#112 - 2014-03-25 20:19:10 UTC
Considering this post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=332182&find=unread (and the Ripard blog that inspired it)

What is your stance on scamming and the harsh reality of EVE?

Is there a line that can be crossed? Is there too far? (scamming newbs? podding for SP loss? Metagaming scams (using external resources like Teamspeak or Custom Websites (eve-bazaar I'm looking at you... ) )

Is out of game harrassment/bullying/emergent gameplay/comedy (pick your term) such as The Bonus Room on teamspeak published across the internet on youtube, soundlcoud, pastebin okay?

Should CCP take a stand on this? any action?

Should the community tolerate and encourage this behaviour?


A TL/DR and IMO:

Some scamming crosses a line from in-game ingenuity and fleecing the naive to being full on cyber bullying and harrasment and possibly even a criminal act. What does DNSBlack think about this situation and what we (players and CCP) should do about it?
Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
#113 - 2014-03-25 23:05:05 UTC
DNS Black, do you believe there is a place for verbal abuse and bullying of other players in game r do you believe such actions is part of the gaming meta?

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carmo pereira
DeMotivators
#114 - 2014-03-26 00:34:13 UTC
I'm very glad you took the challenge to run for CSM!!!

The best way to describe what DNSBlack is, and has to offer for the community as a CMS Member, is by sharing my very own experience with him.

Coaching:
He helped me, as a player, to re-capture the love to play as a self-minded individual, taking out the best joy i can from the game.

Attitude:
Every goal has an objective! Nothing is for granted, and only the hard work get you some fair reward.

Perseverance:
I've watch many good old friends taking subscriptions down from EVE, because community didn't evolve, or stand for them. DNSBlack is one of the few persons i know, that no matter what, fights for the group, and for longevity of EVE itself.

One Coin Side:
Don't expect DNSBlack to change is way (placing passion for the game into ideas and features) by becoming a CSM Member.
He has a strong personality, and a sense of commitment that many can't imagine.

Good luck for the CSM my friend,
Best regards from Portugal,

carmo
Snot Shot
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#115 - 2014-03-27 02:36:25 UTC
Great video blog responses Black, I like that we can see the sincerity of your responses and the effort your putting in.

You will do us all proud up there!
.

Twitter = @Snot_Shot  - “If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"

evesnotshot.blogspot.com

DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad
#116 - 2014-03-27 16:24:47 UTC
Hey guys I am working on answers and video blogs for all the current questions. Please keep the question coming.
DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad
#117 - 2014-03-27 21:34:14 UTC
Deiter Amsel wrote:
Considering this post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=332182&find=unread (and the Ripard blog that inspired it)

What is your stance on scamming and the harsh reality of EVE?

Is there a line that can be crossed? Is there too far? (scamming newbs? podding for SP loss? Metagaming scams (using external resources like Teamspeak or Custom Websites (eve-bazaar I'm looking at you... ) )

Is out of game harrassment/bullying/emergent gameplay/comedy (pick your term) such as The Bonus Room on teamspeak published across the internet on youtube, soundlcoud, pastebin okay?

Should CCP take a stand on this? any action?

Should the community tolerate and encourage this behaviour?


A TL/DR and IMO:

Some scamming crosses a line from in-game ingenuity and fleecing the naive to being full on cyber bullying and harrasment and possibly even a criminal act. What does DNSBlack think about this situation and what we (players and CCP) should do about it?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qELuPyDfIk

Iam also working on a written reply it should be ready Fri. Thanks for watching
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#118 - 2014-03-27 22:05:13 UTC
I'll trade you my CSM vote if you promise to never, ever, everrrrrr do another Alliance Panel at Fan Fest again (this deal also applies to Kesper North who may or may not be running at all, ever).
Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#119 - 2014-03-28 16:57:59 UTC
DNSBLACK wrote:
Deiter Amsel wrote:
Considering this post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=332182&find=unread (and the Ripard blog that inspired it)

What is your stance on scamming and the harsh reality of EVE?

Is there a line that can be crossed? Is there too far? (scamming newbs? podding for SP loss? Metagaming scams (using external resources like Teamspeak or Custom Websites (eve-bazaar I'm looking at you... ) )

Is out of game harrassment/bullying/emergent gameplay/comedy (pick your term) such as The Bonus Room on teamspeak published across the internet on youtube, soundlcoud, pastebin okay?

Should CCP take a stand on this? any action?

Should the community tolerate and encourage this behaviour?


A TL/DR and IMO:

Some scamming crosses a line from in-game ingenuity and fleecing the naive to being full on cyber bullying and harrasment and possibly even a criminal act. What does DNSBlack think about this situation and what we (players and CCP) should do about it?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qELuPyDfIk

Iam also working on a written reply it should be ready Fri. Thanks for watching


You took a very passionate stance on the somerblink issue but I am wondering why you sat on the fence for so long on this matter.

Why did you wait for CCP to make an official statement before you took a stance on this issue?

I still think you are obnoxious when you have a few beers under your belt, but you have my 5 votes, if you take the golden tour again this year, don't **** off the tour guide. =p I am sure that guy from brazil needed a new gall bladder by the time we made it back to the harpa center.

See you at fanfest.
DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad
#120 - 2014-03-29 13:47:03 UTC
In response to Deiter Amsel’s questions in regards to the post on the EVE O forums and Ripard’s recent blog posts.


To begin with, I think Erotica 1’s actions were reprehensible when he crossed the line between real life and in game. This individual and his little buddies need to take a long hard look at themselves. I listened to the Teamspeak recording and what was taking place. I think what occurred goes far beyond the “harsh reality” that EVE and it’s community strives to promote. Online anonymity promotes very shallow ways to say things, and shallow ways to treat people, in ways you never would in the real world. I think it very cowardly to act in such a manner and hide behind the layer of security provided by the game. A line was crossed when the actions in game went beyond the game. When you cross the line between in game and real life then actions need to be taken. There are limits.


I’d also like to address Ripard’s blog post. I am a big fan and you know that. I have the highest esteem for you and enjoy your blog, but I think you have overstepped in an attempt to make an emotional appeal with words like torture and comparisons to domestic violence or child abuse. Frankly and in my own opinion, I think both of the individuals on that Teamspeak are morons. One of my corp members used the term cupidity, which I had to have defined for me. Cupidity is greed for money or possessions, and I think your “victim” is the victim of his own greed in trying to get something for nothing and remaining there to be abused like that over space pixels. Erotica 1 is a moron for continuing to pursue, persuade, and manipulate not for any objective in game but for the pleasure of demeaning another human being. Moron is perhaps not the correct term, sociopath might be. I think there is culpability on both sides. The best scams are when the victim talks themselves into the scam with their own greed.


I take issue with the use of words like torture however. I understand, as someone who has used emotional appeal to bring CCP’s attention to something I felt was damaging to the sandbox, what you are trying to do. In real life however, people who are being tortured can’t get away. The victims of the Hanoi Hilton or Abu Ghraib would take issue with Erotica 1’s actions being compared to what they suffered. They did not have the luxury to log off of EVE or out of Teamspeak to make what they suffered stop. Neither were they placed in their circumstances simply by their own greed in a video game. I also think that children who suffer abuse at the hands of their parents, or spouses at the hands of their partners would take issue with this comparison.


I respect you drawing our attentions to this in our game, that game being a medium that brings people together. When people are brought together, invariably there are those who seek to boost their own esteem through tearing down others. It is CCP’s job as the creators and the maintainer of this medium to police it. We as players have to respect CCP’s decisions. I’m no expert on Icelandic law, but if someone was using this game for the purposes of illegal activity, say a human trafficking/ prostitution ring, CCP would be obligated to reveal that and take action, both civilly and criminally. Erotica 1’s and his little minions on that Teamspeak can’t ask the community to step up and protect or respect his actions under the aegis of “sandbox gameplay.” Having been through six months of trying to help prevent someone from committing suicide, I don’t think there is anyone on the staff at CCP that needs to go through the emotional highs and lows that I have gone through. I know what those employees would go through. If another player is driving another human being to those emotional levels and places through CCP’s game, shame on them. Thier punishment is in CCP’s hands and I hope that they get the punishment their actions deserve. As players we “own” 2% of the EULA. CCP owns the other 98%. Erotica 1 has the right to unsubscribe if he does not respect CCP’s decisions, nothing else.


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