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Orbiting Planets
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Liemoris Starbuck
MGroup9
#1 - 2011-09-11 02:03:20 UTC
How come we can orbit a jetcan, but not a planet.
Makes no sense. Even the damn Space Shuttle from old Earth was able to orbit, but my hyper advanced ship of the future cannot?

Tis All
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-09-11 02:04:44 UTC
cause orbiting a planet would take a few days. u can orbit the planet u just have to fly manually
Epiphaniess
Verboten Technologies
#3 - 2011-09-11 02:15:10 UTC
Because this EvE, not Star Trek.
Arctur Vallfar
Knights Adamant
#4 - 2011-09-11 02:29:48 UTC
Your question intrigues me, but I doubt I would want to orbit an entire planet in EVE Online. Unless, of course I'm highly intoxicated and desire a picturesque orbital view for my mp3 playlist.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#5 - 2011-09-11 02:40:04 UTC
exactly. how can you be sure that you have hit every xbox user on that planet without flying in an orbit?

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Cyber Duck
Blazing Celts
#6 - 2011-09-11 02:48:59 UTC
bit of quick math, fastest ships in game go around 4 or 5 km/s...

diameter of the earth is around 12,500 km

12,500/5 = 2500 seconds...

or around 45 minutes for a ship to orbit an earth size planet...

I know people that would go afk for that long...

meh, why not?
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#7 - 2011-09-11 03:04:44 UTC
If you have ever gone to a planet you might notice that it is spinning. So you might be said to be orbiting it already?
It's very slow but after a few minutes you'll notice it.
Don't go to a gas planet to test this out. Just go to a Temperate or Lava.
BBJ Shepard
#8 - 2011-09-11 03:06:14 UTC
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Arctur Vallfar
Knights Adamant
#9 - 2011-09-11 03:09:35 UTC
I'd say 45 minutes seems a little slow for a starship around an Earth-sized planet. The International Space Station takes about 90 minutes to orbit the planet. Something with engines to mix in with natural forces could probably do it in 20 or so, depending on the ship in question. Regardless, I doubt CCP would throw in that sort of feature when there is very little, if at all, reason to orbit a planet in EVE.

We can warp through them, after all.
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#10 - 2011-09-11 03:14:34 UTC

The real issue is that if players aren't paying attention and fly in a direction opposite the planet's rotation, they run the risk of turning back time and emptying other players' PI. Such grief play will cause further bittervet tears and right now the tearcup at CCP is full.

Dum Spiro Spero
Foodpimp
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-09-11 03:16:56 UTC
Arctur Vallfar wrote:
I'd say 45 minutes seems a little slow for a starship around an Earth-sized planet. The International Space Station takes about 90 minutes to orbit the planet. Something with engines to mix in with natural forces could probably do it in 20 or so, depending on the ship in question. Regardless, I doubt CCP would throw in that sort of feature when there is very little, if at all, reason to orbit a planet in EVE.

We can warp through them, after all.



Geosynchronous orbit takes 24 hours above earth.
Liemoris Starbuck
MGroup9
#12 - 2011-09-11 03:36:38 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
cause orbiting a planet would take a few days. u can orbit the planet u just have to fly manually


Ummm. A few days?
The Space Shuttel orbits the earth in 90 minutes.
That's 1/16th of a day.

And I get EVE is not Star Trek, but if we can bother orbiting a wreck and a can, why not a blasted planet.
Who cares how long it would take to orbit. It would be different for each planet.
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#13 - 2011-09-11 03:46:28 UTC
Cyber Duck wrote:
bit of quick math, fastest ships in game go around 4 or 5 km/s...

diameter of the earth is around 12,500 km

12,500/5 = 2500 seconds...

or around 45 minutes for a ship to orbit an earth size planet...

I know people that would go afk for that long...

meh, why not?



I would recommend going back to your 8th grade geometry text and learning the difference between "diameter" and "circumference."

Dum Spiro Spero
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-09-11 04:06:06 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
exactly. how can you be sure that you have hit every xbox user on that planet without flying in an orbit?


you dont need to orbit a planet to hit xbox users since dust is going to the PS3.
Richard C Hoagland
Anarchos Syndicate
#15 - 2011-09-11 04:28:30 UTC
When I saw the topic I was hoping that it referred to the idea of planets orbiting stars, which we don't seem to have in Eve.
Arctur Vallfar
Knights Adamant
#16 - 2011-09-11 05:06:25 UTC
Foodpimp wrote:
Arctur Vallfar wrote:
I'd say 45 minutes seems a little slow for a starship around an Earth-sized planet. The International Space Station takes about 90 minutes to orbit the planet. Something with engines to mix in with natural forces could probably do it in 20 or so, depending on the ship in question. Regardless, I doubt CCP would throw in that sort of feature when there is very little, if at all, reason to orbit a planet in EVE.

We can warp through them, after all.



Geosynchronous orbit takes 24 hours above earth.


Yes, because that means the object in question is fixed geographically with a point on the surface of a planet. Many objects are not geosychronous, though, including the ISS.

Anyhow, it would be great if the planets/moons/etc all orbited in a realistic fashion. As well as having the ability to orbit such objects. But there is little use for such implementations as far as gameplay is concerned.
Samuel Caldara
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-09-11 05:23:00 UTC
Considering the ISS does an average of 7k m/s groundspeed, its booking it pretty fast. Also the ISS is much closer to the earth then we can really get.

ISS Speed
Nemesis Factor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-09-11 07:13:29 UTC
Samuel Caldara wrote:
Considering the ISS does an average of 7k m/s groundspeed, its booking it pretty fast. Also the ISS is much closer to the earth then we can really get.

ISS Speed


I have flown inside several planets, so a beg to differ.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-09-11 07:23:03 UTC
BBJ Shepard wrote:
starennr day te 22288899991 this is bbj sheperd ,, .,. i haeve hmm,.,,.mhm,m wle bene askd to orbat is buet yes, strenge .


ies can no orbet jita ford, can no orebet strenge anoboemly,. mh,.hm. yea



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Sacredx Taredi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2011-09-11 07:30:32 UTC
Considering the fact orbiting the earth in real life involves moving quite a bit faster than 5km/s, Id have to say that its really not feasible in the game..


Also, @ the diameter/circumference thing...good chuckle.

Quote:
I'd say 45 minutes seems a little slow for a starship around an Earth-sized planet. The International Space Station takes about 90 minutes to orbit the planet. Something with engines to mix in with natural forces could probably do it in 20 or so, depending on the ship in question. Regardless, I doubt CCP would throw in that sort of feature when there is very little, if at all, reason to orbit a planet in EVE.

We can warp through them, after all.


If the fastest ship somehow made it to the level of the ISS (355km or so), that might work. lol
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