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I learned that joining a player corp for its own sake is a bad idea.

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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#41 - 2014-03-12 10:28:23 UTC
Kaerf Arkanghel wrote:
this boggles my mind...why the heck would play an MMORPG if you want to solo?


I agree with you .. but since you asked; 1) because they're anti-social mouth breathers from WoW, 2) they want to play Eve but are intimidated by all of the asshats in the shark tank or 3) alts.
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2014-03-12 10:29:43 UTC
I'm sorry but you're the definition of why people quit eve.
it's an MMO interact with others, enjoy the game.

Find a corp you'd like to be in, sure you'll get decced at one point, but you know there's also pvp in eve.
Pvp is fun, especially with others you should try it.

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.comĀ 

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#43 - 2014-03-12 11:04:18 UTC
I have seen someone interacting with others by playing with his 15 ganker alts and ganking freighters in this game. Pirate
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#44 - 2014-03-12 13:42:34 UTC
Kaerf Arkanghel wrote:
this boggles my mind...why the heck would play an MMORPG if you want to solo?


The unfortunate reality is that there isn't a game like EVE. MMORPG or not.

That and while I don't like interacting with other players, I like the fact that they are there. If that makes any sense.
Cynar Pappotte
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-03-12 14:03:36 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
Kaerf Arkanghel wrote:
this boggles my mind...why the heck would play an MMORPG if you want to solo?


The unfortunate reality is that there isn't a game like EVE. MMORPG or not.

That and while I don't like interacting with other players, I like the fact that they are there. If that makes any sense.


Makes sense to me!

As a relative newbie I haven't looked to closely at the player corp side of things yet, (so correct me if something like this this already exists), but may the solution is to have the abilty for independent or 1-player corps to be able to form co-op type alliances?
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#46 - 2014-03-12 14:07:58 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
Kaerf Arkanghel wrote:
this boggles my mind...why the heck would play an MMORPG if you want to solo?


The unfortunate reality is that there isn't a game like EVE. MMORPG or not.

That and while I don't like interacting with other players, I like the fact that they are there. If that makes any sense.


Makes sense to me. Single player games are just lonely, MMO's give some comfort knowing that others are about, even if you are just going solo. People who can't understand are either trolling or lack any empathy towards others feelings.
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#47 - 2014-03-12 15:17:20 UTC
culo duro wrote:
I'm sorry but you're the definition of why people quit eve.
it's an MMO interact with others, enjoy the game.

Find a corp you'd like to be in, sure you'll get decced at one point, but you know there's also pvp in eve.
Pvp is fun, especially with others you should try it.


So, because I don't like to PVP, I am somehow contributing to why people quit EVE?

The reason why I don't PVP is because I don't trust anyone to PVP with. 1v1's never happen either. So it would be suicide for me to PVP.
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2014-03-12 15:32:02 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
culo duro wrote:
I'm sorry but you're the definition of why people quit eve.
it's an MMO interact with others, enjoy the game.

Find a corp you'd like to be in, sure you'll get decced at one point, but you know there's also pvp in eve.
Pvp is fun, especially with others you should try it.


So, because I don't like to PVP, I am somehow contributing to why people quit EVE?


No, it's because you play eve as a single player experience.

While you seemingly seem to think that you can't win if you're outnumbered means you can't pvp is another subject.
I'd really recommend you to watch Garmonation or similiar things on youtube.
Plenty of people do solo pvp and destroy fleets.

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.comĀ 

Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2014-03-12 15:50:25 UTC
SB Rico wrote:


5. Chat with the recruiter, do they seem generally friendly or do they seem like they see you as another body? Do they seem more interested in how much shiny stuff you have?



No one enters my corp (the corp i am in. it isn't owned by me) unless they are a close friend of a trusted member or they go through me. Most of that process is a longish chat about what the applicant is looking for in a corp/alliance, whether they are ready for losses /null , whether they seem a good match personality wise and what TZ they play in and whether or not they are French.
I see absolutely no point in adding numbers for the sake of numbers or of recruiting people who are not going to enjoy what we do. The recruitment interview should be a 2 way street where both sides research the background, aims and interests of the other.
I also check killboards, posting history, API , employment history etc etc and link our killboard and anything else requested by the candidate. I expect them to have done some basic research independantly as well because blindly trusting the propaganda of a recruiter is foolish in any context.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85

Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#50 - 2014-03-12 17:18:34 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
I remember one of the silver rules of EVE is to join a player corp as soon as possible.


Far better to stay in the rookie corp 2 or 3 months minimum. It's a lot more helpful environment than probably anywhere and you're protected until you can find a what you want to do.
Organic Lager
Drinking Buddies
#51 - 2014-03-12 17:27:31 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
Good Posting wrote:
You can drop from your corp and the war won't follow you.

Or create your own 1 man corp and you will be ignored by wardeccers because wardec you will cost them 50 mill and you can disband and create a new corp for 1.6 mill more or less.
Or move to a lonely low sec region when you get wardecced and keep doing your pve thing.

You have many posibilities to avoid high sec wardecs if you don't want to fight back, use them.


Why would I do any of that when I can just stay in Perkone and do my thing? :P


15% npc corp tax?

Creating your own corp is probably best 0 taxes and 0 wardecs
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#52 - 2014-03-12 17:31:19 UTC
Op thinks joining a corp for no reason is the problem, when the actual problem is being in high sec.
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#53 - 2014-03-12 17:32:21 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Op thinks joining a corp for no reason is the problem, when the actual problem is being in high sec.


I thought other players shoot you more in Low Sec/Null Sec/Wormhole

Am I wrong about that?
Azeroth Uluntil
Last Chance for Redemption
FFEW Associates
#54 - 2014-03-12 17:39:07 UTC
I'd say it's more an issue of the cluelessness of the op... Just my personal opinion though.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#55 - 2014-03-12 17:39:51 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Op thinks joining a corp for no reason is the problem, when the actual problem is being in high sec.


I thought other players shoot you more in Low Sec/Null Sec/Wormhole

Am I wrong about that?

Depends on where you go. High sec is dangerous for me, while I feel at home in low sec.

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#56 - 2014-03-12 17:40:17 UTC
NPC corp taxes should be set at 50%, as disincentive to players hiding out there forever. Disincentive mind you, not force. If you want to be safe from wars, you should pay a premium for that; current tax rate differentials are laughable given the protections received.

Players should go into a 1-week stasis, when leaving a corp/alliance under wardec. The current exploit of ducking wars by dropping corp must be immediately closed.

Wardec fees should go into a bucket claimable by the defenders, as incentive to come out and fight

Until these changes happen, I will keep killing-it-forward.

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Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#57 - 2014-03-12 17:41:26 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
Lilianna Star wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Op thinks joining a corp for no reason is the problem, when the actual problem is being in high sec.


I thought other players shoot you more in Low Sec/Null Sec/Wormhole

Am I wrong about that?

Depends on where you go. High sec is dangerous for me, while I feel at home in low sec.


I guess I could try low sec for a while. No warp bubbles would make things a lot easier.
Organic Lager
Drinking Buddies
#58 - 2014-03-12 17:44:27 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
culo duro wrote:
I'm sorry but you're the definition of why people quit eve.
it's an MMO interact with others, enjoy the game.

Find a corp you'd like to be in, sure you'll get decced at one point, but you know there's also pvp in eve.
Pvp is fun, especially with others you should try it.


So, because I don't like to PVP, I am somehow contributing to why people quit EVE?

The reason why I don't PVP is because I don't trust anyone to PVP with. 1v1's never happen either. So it would be suicide for me to PVP.


Don't listen to the pvp or bust crowd. This is your sandbox play how you want, build your sand castles how you want.

You can join chat rooms (like eve uni) and fleet with people if you're ever lonely. If and when you're ready to try something new like pvp that is when it would be a good time to join like minded people in a corp.
Pew Terror
All of it
#59 - 2014-03-12 17:49:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Pew Terror
Lilianna Star wrote:
I remember one of the silver rules of EVE is to join a player corp as soon as possible.

Bad idea imo. I got stung hard doing this because veterans said it was a good idea. Turns out that there's a pretty nasty disadvantage to that. War decs are fun Sad.

I'm not saying never join a corp, but if you want to join a corp have a reason first. It doesn't have to be a great reason, but it has to be a reason. Don't just join for its own sake.

Needless to say I'm such a carebear I never leave station without a covops cloaking device.


I'd say newbros learning about wardecs is a really good reason in itself. Personally i learned about wardecs when hauling half my fortune through hisec while in a JC service corp that was decced to bits.
One of the worst thing you can do in this game is try to play it safe for too long. Jumping into low/null in your T1 frig should fill you with joy instead of fear asap.
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#60 - 2014-03-12 17:56:52 UTC
Pew Terror wrote:
Lilianna Star wrote:
I remember one of the silver rules of EVE is to join a player corp as soon as possible.

Bad idea imo. I got stung hard doing this because veterans said it was a good idea. Turns out that there's a pretty nasty disadvantage to that. War decs are fun Sad.

I'm not saying never join a corp, but if you want to join a corp have a reason first. It doesn't have to be a great reason, but it has to be a reason. Don't just join for its own sake.

Needless to say I'm such a carebear I never leave station without a covops cloaking device.


I'd say newbros learning about wardecs is a really good reason in itself. Personally i learned about wardecs when hauling half my fortune through hisec while in a JC service corp that was decced to bits.
One of the worst thing you can do in this game is try to play it safe for too long. Jumping into low/null in your T1 frig should fill you with joy instead of fear asap.


I guess. I only lost a Bantam from the ordeal so I guess it was a good lesson to learn.

Though I don't know why going into low/null should "fill me with joy instead of fear." I naturally don't want to lose and if I run into someone else I am guaranteed to lose unless I duck out in time. So yeah, it is reasonable to fear the unprotected areas.