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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#21 - 2014-03-09 10:51:09 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
If i remember correctly, then the numbers were deaths and not accidents. So there is a lower chance of dying while flying than when dying.


I think the chance of dying while your dying is 100% Lol


Fine .... fixed.

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Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-03-09 11:03:52 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
If i remember correctly, then the numbers were deaths and not accidents. So there is a lower chance of dying while flying than when dying.


I think the chance of dying while your dying is 100% Lol


You're

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#23 - 2014-03-09 12:55:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
MutnantRebel wrote:
Sad news for the plane going down. I don't want to imagine my wife or kids being lost in such a way....

Be it the plane was shot down, structural failure, or scammed, jammed, and popped by aliens is something that'd be nice to know. Maybe it'll help at least bring closure to the families of the lost.

I don't fly. I flew to Oklahoma a few years back from Seattle with my wife. We were on our way to see my mom, who'd just attempted (and damn near succeeded) suicide. I was awfully sure I was getting there to bury her. Layover in Houston and the checkpoint security (TSA) had a muslim woman in the next line over. I heard her say it was "Against her religion to be checked by security" and they let her waltz through easy peasy. I was wearing a hat my wife got me when I got home from Iraq that had a Combat Infantryman's Badge on the front and stated I was an OIF Veteran. Well, I was treated to the full meal deal. Metal detector, pat down, then naked scanner. There was a man behind me that said rather conspicuously (for crying out loud! He's a VETERAN, why is HE treated like a criminal?" which earned him a trip with police to someplace else. On that day, I decided never again will I give an airline my money. They support that crap by allowing it. They don't have to...

But that's besides the point. No, it's not. if they'd put as much effort into aircraft quality which = safety maybe there wouldn't be oil slicks in the ocean by Malaysia....



Sorry, but everyone must absolutely be searched in at least some way. How else can they possibly find those trying to cause a "disruption" ?

Would you rather them just "guess" or something ??

The 9/11 pilots were all very nice men in uniforms and apparently very excellent pilots nobody would have ever expected.

Also, I can't believe an American soldier is whining about being inconvenienced and being "singled out". Really ??? And mistreated so badly when not even in a POW camp ? Get real.

Also, it's easy to obtain uniforms and medals (especially if one is a religious fanatic and is willing to use questionable methods to do so). Just because you are in an American uniform does not mean you are authentic at all.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#24 - 2014-03-09 12:59:53 UTC
Just Lilly wrote:



Was it little green men?
Was it a bomb?
A fuel accident?



Welp, we probably won't know for awhile. When that Air France flight went down similarly, it took 2 full years to find even a scrap of metal.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-03-10 06:08:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Hesod Adee
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Sorry, but everyone must absolutely be searched in at least some way. How else can they possibly find those trying to cause a "disruption" ?

Would you rather them just "guess" or something ??

I'd rather they do something that actually worked. Which means, at the very least, hiring competent people. Not people who think that saying “We saw Bitcoin in your bag and need to check.” does anything but make them look like a bunch of lying morons.

On that note, what attacks has the TSA stopped with their searches ?
Sodium Canine
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2014-03-10 06:44:03 UTC
They do keep us safe from the Jewish terrorist threat

My dad was a sailor on the ocean. He knows all about the ocean. What he doesn't know is why he quit being a sailor and married my mom.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#27 - 2014-03-10 13:56:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Hesod Adee wrote:


On that note, what attacks has the TSA stopped with their searches ?


Dumbest rhetorical question in the world.

If they stop someone legitimately, thus preventing an act, then the act never occurs, so even the TSA can't know specifically what was to happen, unless the suspect tells.

One can't gather "statistics" for events that never occurred to fruition because of being halted mid-operation.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#28 - 2014-03-10 14:13:21 UTC
I flew Malaysia Airlines once. After we'd all boarded, there was a three-hour delay while they did maintenance on the 747's brakes. The pilot announced, "We apologize for the delay, but please don't complain, it's for your own safety after all." Malaysia Airlines was notorious for those kinds of delays for maintenance, loading fuel, etc. back then (in the 90s). They might be better now though. Also, the in-flight food and service was really great.
Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#29 - 2014-03-10 14:20:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Black Panpher
Using statistics comparing two massively different forms of transport means nothing!
Variables people.
Let's compare statistics of people who survive car crashes vs people who survive airplane crashes, that will paint a different picture.
Also you are in control of your own car, driver skill and car manufacturer play massive rolls.

Also in the UK cars are checked once a year... Idk where people live that they service there car every 7 years?

I used to love flying but in my early 20's had some rough experiences flying to and from the Caribbean!
Now I have to pop Valium to fly lol.
Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-03-10 22:38:55 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Hesod Adee wrote:


On that note, what attacks has the TSA stopped with their searches ?


Dumbest rhetorical question in the world.

If they stop someone legitimately, thus preventing an act, then the act never occurs, so even the TSA can't know specifically what was to happen, unless the suspect tells.

One can't gather "statistics" for events that never occurred to fruition because of being halted mid-operation.

You can still gather statistics. Convictions and confiscated weapons are two that come to mind. But I'm not aware on any information on convictions that the TSA helped with and their statistics on 'weapons' includes things like nail clippers in the total count, making the numbers useless.

So where are these statistics to show that the TSA is anything more than a bunch of morons trying to defend against attacks that nobody is attempting ?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#31 - 2014-03-10 22:44:16 UTC
Hesod Adee wrote:


So where are these statistics to show that the TSA is anything more than a bunch of morons trying to defend against attacks that nobody is attempting ?


The ultimate irony is that if they were to stop the searches, then the attacks would indeed immediately begin.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Adunh Slavy
#32 - 2014-03-11 11:03:38 UTC
They are on The Island

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#33 - 2014-03-11 11:12:53 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
I flew Malaysia Airlines once. After we'd all boarded, there was a three-hour delay while they did maintenance on the 747's brakes. The pilot announced, "We apologize for the delay, but please don't complain, it's for your own safety after all." Malaysia Airlines was notorious for those kinds of delays for maintenance, loading fuel, etc. back then (in the 90s). They might be better now though. Also, the in-flight food and service was really great.


Better now? In a time where fuel is significantly higher, wages are higher, and profits are lower than ever. I think maintenance issues are more prevalent now than ever.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#34 - 2014-03-14 15:50:15 UTC
A this point, it's seriously looking like the pilot episode of "Lost".

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Sturmwolke
#35 - 2014-03-15 10:26:08 UTC
It's looking like a sabotage from latest blurb :

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/article4034795.ece
http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/15/Najib-No-confirmation-missing-MH370-hijacked/

This gets curiouser and curioser. The timing of MH370 disappearance coincides impeccably with a few other events.
Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2014-03-15 12:04:02 UTC
In unrelated news, David Copperfield has been taken into custody by the FBI for "questioning".
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#37 - 2014-03-15 12:08:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
I think this plane will crash someday in some economic center of the west.

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Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2014-03-15 12:11:42 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
I think this plane will crash someday in some economic center of the west.
So it'll land at an India call center?
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#39 - 2014-03-15 15:13:14 UTC
Sturmwolke wrote:
It's looking like a sabotage from latest blurb :

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/article4034795.ece
http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/15/Najib-No-confirmation-missing-MH370-hijacked/

This gets curiouser and curioser. The timing of MH370 disappearance coincides impeccably with a few other events.



Seems they want to make the pilot the patsy backed up with planted evidence at his house, here we go...
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#40 - 2014-03-15 15:35:26 UTC
Retweeted by William Gibson


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Media now make spectacle out of enacting the discovery that they know nothing about stuff.

Spectacle as gossip, gossip as spectacle. The villagisation of everything.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882