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Crucible Expansion: Cloudy With a Chance of Tears

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MirrorGod
Heretic Army
#21 - 2011-11-29 07:40:19 UTC
Hopefully, we might even see some conflict over the PI hub -- turning it from a useless and passive ninja-carebear activity into something worth defending.

Worth defending, if the prices go high enough.

Clever introduction of mechanics CCP, well done indeed.

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Khors
Doomheim
#22 - 2011-11-29 07:44:15 UTC
Even if CCP didn't change a thing there would be tears
Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
#23 - 2011-11-29 18:51:48 UTC
Yes, yes, you can blow up all the gantries and leave lowsec barren. Am I really the first to suggest installing a honeytrap Customs gantry thing set to allow neutrals access on the cheap as a killmail farm? Really?

(hint: bombers can break cloak and target immediately)
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#24 - 2011-11-29 20:05:47 UTC
This is going to be ace. the destroy everything crowd will destroy every customs office they see and then moan that there are no customs offices in lowsec. They wont do PI themselves as they are not there for carebear stuff.


alternatively the destroy everything crowd will destroy customs offices until they get bored of doing that and then will not bother with them unless they have a fruitless night on a gatecamp and will destroy one just to show something at the end of the night.

If i was more interested in this game i would speculate on the market more as this was obviously coming
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Stan Smith
Ixian Machines
#25 - 2011-11-29 20:12:47 UTC
mkint wrote:
Predicting in a years time eve will be nothing but rmt nullbears and a handful of rookies they sell to. I was initially hoping this expansion was going to take eve off it's death spiral not accelerate it. If summer follows the same patterns of gameplay development well... I guess sometimes things have to fall apart to make room for better things.


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Gealbhan
Temeraria Praedonum
#26 - 2011-11-29 20:20:21 UTC
Handsome Hussein wrote:
After I read about the changes and figured out how it would affect the small-time low-sec harvester, I pretty much gave up on PI. CCP just ruined a means for the small guy to make money (I also noted, ironically, that they want the small guy in null-sec.)

I'd say "Go **** yourself, CCP", but that's not productive and ranting.


There's no room for the small guy in the game. Join a corp/alliance and work together or perish alone in space.


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Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#27 - 2011-11-29 20:33:46 UTC
So GSF is cryingRoll

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Handsome Hussein
#28 - 2011-11-29 20:36:38 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
There's no room for the small guy in the game. Join a corp/alliance and work together or perish alone in space.

Actually, now that I've seen some tax rate tears, I contend that there is room in EVE for the small guy. Command center PI from jetcans is going to be pretty damn profitable, even at such low volumes.

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#29 - 2011-11-29 20:43:29 UTC
Well actually I don't really care, I've neer expected or wanted 2 gazillions of alts for PI and buy plex and play for free.

I do it smoothly, will those taxes be higher? -probably, the fact is that taxes are repported on final price so very simple, PI will be worthy for once I hope. If it doesn't well I'll just stop it and do something else until it's improved.

Tears? sure, I can't wait to read about those.
Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
#30 - 2011-11-29 20:46:35 UTC
mkint wrote:
You do realize that after the devs ruin the game for you you'll have to find another game that will put up with you, right?


they are the devs. Also the CSM. also a huge blue stained alliance. In essence they are EvE. So nice try but thats like telling a self-employed worker not to go on the sick in case they get fired.

Also in other tinfoil that OP looks very much like a copy paste, as though this information was old news to someone who had (with much glee) already produced an OP like the OP to drop like the OP did in the OP.

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Xtover
Cold Moon Destruction.
#31 - 2011-11-29 20:48:12 UTC
Most.. by most I mean just about every... PvPer doesn't give a damn about your customs offices or PI.


You'll be fine, because honestly nobody gives a ****. We go to planets to bounce from a fight or to a gate.
pmchem
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2011-11-29 20:48:12 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
So GSF is cryingRoll


Nope.

This change to tax reference values was a direct result of a thread I started in S&I:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=33468&find=unread

It should directly benefit anyone doing PI, as PI prices will rise in response to the new taxes. But it will especially benefit lowsec/Wh/nullsec POCO owners, as they will have a new source of income and new economic gameplay.

Some lowsec carebears have complained, but that is only because people will actually be interested in PI now. They may even need to fight in lowsec or ally with someone who can protect them or their POCOs. Crazy, huh? Emergent, player-driven economic gameplay!

It's a great change and will make POCOs matter, instead of becoming another ignored feature.

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#33 - 2011-11-29 20:53:41 UTC
Instead of moaning likke little girls why don't you just blow those customs and put yours instead?

-Of course your alliances will put 0% tax rate heh? Lol

Well if they don't just don't cry about CCP, kick your alliance and do something about it ^^
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
The Revenant Order
#34 - 2011-11-29 21:01:30 UTC
mkint wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
mkint wrote:
Predicting in a years time eve will be nothing but rmt nullbears and a handful of rookies they sell to. I was initially hoping this expansion was going to take eve off it's death spiral not accelerate it. If summer follows the same patterns of gameplay development well... I guess sometimes things have to fall apart to make room for better things.



Don't let the captain's quarters door hit you on the way out

You do realize that after the devs ruin the game for you you'll have to find another game that will put up with you, right?


Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#35 - 2011-11-29 21:05:24 UTC
I only have two minor complaints with what has been done.

1) other people's cans are hard to see in Amarr space (the icon, not the can itself) because the yellow is much darker and less intense.

2) the sunny side of Amarr stations glow enough to burn through lead... so bright.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#36 - 2011-11-29 21:07:20 UTC
It is my inner and dear wish that every custom office in low sec gets destroyed. Over and over again. Never to last a week.

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
#37 - 2011-11-29 21:09:11 UTC
my canteen is only partially full...Sad
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#38 - 2011-11-29 21:11:09 UTC
We must all stay within the traditions of all MMOs and, for this expansion, so what was done in any forum for any MMO whenever there is an expansion:

Whine about EVERYTHING.


Now I will go shopping and get a huge hunk of Cheeeeeeeeeze!!!1!!!

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2011-11-29 21:17:34 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:
Predicting a very high price on PI and a shortage of it within 3 weeks.


Promise? Shortages equal profits.

I like profit.

Twisted
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Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2011-11-29 21:32:14 UTC
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