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/signed Removal of Feature

No reinforcement. But the Interbus offices take longer to kill than player ones (14.5 mil hp, vs 7.5 + 4.5).

You are wrong. "Config equipment" vs "Config starbase equipment". That's the role for anchoring secure cans and bubbles, I believe.

Well take a good armed fleet ~ 20 to 30 people to clear up a region would be easy.
Take 5-10 supers in that fleet and most low-sec would be yours nobody would attack you during your op..
with nobody I mean the 0815 low pirates...
not the pirates living in Minmatar low, who are connect to PL or the Amamake low, where PL lives right now...
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The other "dead" low sec in gallente/caldari/minmatar/amarr space could be play ground for low sec tycoons..

I like this changes because of many reasons.
-It ******* brings people together no more soloing in a multi player game
-It will lead to a different market situation
-People who will risk something will get more benefits out of it so no more easy solo cloaky hauler ISK from low
-Another way to get ISK

But I still got a few questions:
-What will happed to POCO, which Corp. just disband itself ?
-What will drop if you kill a POCO?

I've given it as much try as is possible at this point, and certainly I'm going to be involved in a lot of aspects of it going forward.

I've removed an Interbus CO from SiSi. solo, just go get a sense of what's involved.

There's an opportunity for you guys (or similar groups) to grab a whole lot of economic control, if you so choose. But it's enough work, that I don't know if anyone will trouble themselves on that scale. I think it would be easy to make that situation a lot more balanced. I think it would be even easier, if they either delayed the plan for further discussion and refinement, or phased it in, leaving losec for last.

Anyone who is certain this will turn out a certain way, is deluding themselves. That includes CCP Omen, I fear -- but it also includes the doomsayers.

I think this could be done a lot better. I think the relationship to corps needs to be thought out a lot more. I think it should have been fully available on SiSi before launch so it could be TESTED by players. I hate the tie to faction LP. I think the risk of disruption of the game for a lot of players is significant, and we risk losing people every time that happens.

But that doesn't mean I think it's a bad idea, or that there's not a possibility it might work out sort-of OK as it stands.

While it's not all that hard to take out a single CO, it's a big job to take out a lot of them. That's a big upfront barrier. But once done, maintaining control is a lot easier. You don't put up lots of COs and defend them, you just have to attack and harass any that do get put up, either making them uneconomical to use (PvP) or take them out and make them uneconomical to place (PvE). (Making then uneconomical to use also spoils the ROI on placing them).

While it's a lot of ISK to put up a CO, the taxes you pay on high-end goods will eventually cover it, if you use the CO yourself. Whether you can pay for a CO used by others with taxes you charge, remains to be seen. Probably not, if people are taking them out.

It may be possible to get locals in losec to work together to both remove Interbus COs, and share POCOs amiably.

Or POCOs might only end up in 0.0 space in any numbers. It's going to be a lot easier to take down Interbus COs in space you control.

[And does Incarna include a fix for the forum software, so it doesn't discard posts????]

So, let me get this straight? CCP, in an effort to energize the content dry and oft complained of Low Sec, introduces a feature that has profit potential (everyone magnet), pirate/maffia infighting potential w/ lots o' pvp (low sec magnet) and smacks of soveriegn/territory control as well as big potential for inspired FW fights (null sec & FW magnet).

It could be thier plan to turn low sec into the EVE farmland and introduction to territorial warfare.

Or I guess it could be a completely iditotic excuse for a PI update that is doomed to utterly fail...leading to more mass firings out of Iceland...tipping a critical butterfly wing effect throughout world markets (CCP world wide international corporation run by Vikings you know) which results in a huge double dip market collapse driving Earth into a Greatest EVEr Depression.....

Could be either. Or neither. I'll try it.

I'd rather go w/ the first one though

Your posting is so bad -- hysterical, defeatist claims not backed up by any kind of logical arguments or sisi testing, and signed by your own damn forum name again and again -- that I may actually track down your area of operations and come kill every stupid CO in the region. Just because of your posting.

I see you're some in some terrible corp with 30% efficiency on eve-kill, operating mostly in genesis and khanid. With a string of exhumer and T1 BC losses but basically no success. No wonder you don't want anything that could possibly be shot by players, you might have to pvp in lowsec, or ally with someone who can fight for you. The end of the world!!

You're currently located in Meildolf, Molden Heath region. Doing PI there while safely doing industry and mining in the highsec island next to it? Be seeing you.

Some inspired guesses, but, nope, did live in the high sec bubble a couple of years back and definitely not living in Meildolf, Pass through there once in a while so start there if you think chasing me down is a good use of your time.

What you don't get is SiSi testing has nothing to do with the nature of low sec in the real Eve world. I live with the low sec pirates and watch what motivates them. This "feature" assumes someone living there is going to suddenly want to work in some group hug lets all make isks fashion. They won't. They will like something new to shoot at though when they are bored or if they think it would produce "carebear tears".

I mean look at you, from forum postings you want to hunt me or pop the COs where you think I live (I've already assumed they be gone in days anyways and have taken appropriate action). What really proves my point is if you wanted to prove me wrong you'd find some low sec place where I do PI in and put up your own PoCos and tax me. The fact you didn't consider that proves my point. These will be popped just for the popping.

As to my corp, we are very typical of industrial corps, the kind of corp that finds something like PI a worthwhile pass time. Folks like us are a big part of Eve and this feature will just make us like Eve less.

And what about signing with my forum name, its branding!

Issler

Or not lol. I love when people on forums act superior, its amusing. Might be - might not who knows. Anyone who states 'this is how it is' is full of it. It's just their little slice of experience... like yours.

I want to point out that a lot of people responding to this thread saw it exactly like me. I wasn't the only one predicting this to be a bad thing.

Only time will tell, but show me one thing in the last 5 years that made low sec better for anyone.

Issler