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So one player can gank me in Highsec and not get Concorded?

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Zabrina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-03-08 00:30:00 UTC
I haven't played for years and I've been back a week turning mu 3 tunes, emptying obsolete hangers and ramping up production on with my T2 BPOs when I was solo ganked by by 1 player with sentry drones. Is this the new OP? Tto rub it in, they didn't get concorded. I though people are always concorded in empire?

About 225m lost total in cargo and ship and I dropped around 150m items / gear.

The only thing I'm sad about is I just turned in LP for about 50k rounds of faction medium projectile (Fusion M) ( Fusion S)


Victim: Zabrina
Corp: Half Moon Bay Ventures
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Iteron Mark V
System: Colelie
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706

Involved parties:

Name: Nordika (laid the final blow)
Security: -0.20
Corp: Ganked And T Bagged
Alliance: None
Faction: None
Ship: Vexor
Weapon: Garde II
Damage Done: 1706

Destroyed items:
Mag's
Azn Empire
#2 - 2014-03-08 00:32:01 UTC
Unless they had rights of engagement, then they would have been concordokenedddddd.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#3 - 2014-03-08 00:33:09 UTC
Assuming no-one had kill rights on you & you weren't suspect, make a petition.
CCP should deal with it.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#4 - 2014-03-08 00:38:17 UTC
It's highly likely you just didn't live long enough to see them die.

If they podded you, that's definitely the case.

Either way, you are not giving enough information to determine the cause.

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Alice Ituin
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-03-08 00:39:00 UTC
Just a normal solo vexor gank.
Cargo fit iteron V with 500 mio in cargo is a gank magnet.
Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-03-08 00:44:18 UTC
Maybe they "know "someone in Concord? Bribe?

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Zabrina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-03-08 00:56:17 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
It's highly likely you just didn't live long enough to see them die.

If they podded you, that's definitely the case.

Either way, you are not giving enough information to determine the cause.


Isn't it considered rude to post kill mail on EVE forums?
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#8 - 2014-03-08 01:01:33 UTC
Zabrina wrote:
Isn't it considered rude to post kill mail on EVE forums?

Not rude, just against the rules.

The rulez are rulez and there's no scope to apply them in terms of their original intent.
Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
#9 - 2014-03-08 01:19:46 UTC
Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you??

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#10 - 2014-03-08 01:26:46 UTC
Appears not just ganked, but tea bagged as well.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Zabrina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-03-08 01:32:21 UTC
Noddy Comet wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you??



Farming likes? Has your life come down to this?
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#12 - 2014-03-08 01:39:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Erotica 1
Zabrina wrote:
Noddy Comet wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you??



Farming likes? Has your life come down to this?


People are trying to help you solve the mystery, be nice.

You came to GD for help. We are here to help you.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Zabrina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-03-08 02:06:43 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Zabrina wrote:
Noddy Comet wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you??



Farming likes? Has your life come down to this?


People are trying to help you solve the mystery, be nice.

You came to GD for help. We are here to help you.


Okay, just wondering what part of AFK hauling you missed. I've been back a week. Havn't even killed a rat yet. You know how much you forget after 3 years?

I come back, I can fly ships that according to the skill requirements say I can't. My cyno alt has about 7 days of training again andI get ganked by a solo player with sentry drones.

What's in store for my Obelisk, Orca?
Tydeth Gilitae
Magewright Artificers
#14 - 2014-03-08 02:07:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tydeth Gilitae
In a 0.5 system like Colelie, a ganker has plenty of time to do his thing before Concord arrives to put a stop to it, especially if Concord spawns have been previously manipulated/prepared/moved in the system. Concord doesn't notify the victims (or any killboards unless a player did damage before they popped him) that they've done their job. It's likely that if he ganked you, his Vexor did it so quickly that you could not last long enough to see the Concord ship, especially if you had Cargo Expanders in your low slots and/or cargo rigs.

That said, there are ways to not get Concorded in High-sec:
- War declared between two player corps.
- One of the parties is a suspect and the other shot him
- Duel
- Same-corp Teamkilling, aka AWOXing
- Both parties are in Faction War as enemies (which means one of them is being chased by navy NPCs and a message would have popped up for everyone declaring him to be an enemy)
- One of the parties is -5.0 sec status or lower, and the other shot him first.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#15 - 2014-03-08 02:17:52 UTC
Well from looking at your corp you dont have any wars and arent in faction warfare so that eliminates the two biggest causes. I think I have to lean towards the 'getting podded meant you missed him getting killed' angle, it tends not to show on the major killboards because most of them dont register killmails by NPCs. You could try checking his corp killboard and see if it shows there.

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#16 - 2014-03-08 02:32:24 UTC
Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#17 - 2014-03-08 03:30:27 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com


i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling - such an activity is wrong on every front lol
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#18 - 2014-03-08 03:31:18 UTC
Well first, welcome back. I can't say how they avoided concord either. I don't know that they can eject fast enough or log. But in the time you've been gone, ganking in high sec has become a fine art. There are a few really nice guides out there that explain a lot of the fine points, there are ways to bait concord that increases their response time too. Usually they use catalysts, they can get 600 plus dps but its short range. A vexor while costing more can conceivably outdamage it but with a lot more range. CCP approves of this gameplay and it has really flourished.

Don't autopilot with anything in your cargo, get a cloaky transport. YOu may be surpised that you can get instalocked also. Stay awake and learn the camps. They are usually a couple .5's or a .5 and a .6 in a row. If you cost in, they have plenty of time to passive scan you and pass the information on to the .5 system. Make sure you have instabookmarks out of the trade hubs and anywhere else. I'm not even sure that they care what you have sometimes. Assume you'll be locked and shot at undocking from Jita. get something cheap and fast, burn straigt out for quite a way and set a bookmark, then test it for being a straight enough line to instawarp. That will take care of single players, the pipes will be two players or a multiboxed scanning alt. Watch out for tornadoes. A lot more expensive but huge alpha damage that can take you out in one shot if your cargo looks like a reasonable gamble.

On your toes.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-03-08 03:39:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Shinhwa
Looked at your km. Your attacker is an obvious ganker with many ships lost to CONCORD. I'm sure this one was as well. Your mistake is thinking CONCORD is there to protect you. They aren't. Like the RL cops, they show up, eventually, to punish the bad guy, not save you. They even write a nice report for you and send it to the killboards.

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Zabrina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-03-08 04:09:10 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Looked at your km. Your attacker is an obvious ganker with many ships lost to CONCORD. I'm sure this one was as well. Your mistake is thinking CONCORD is there to protect you. They aren't. Like the RL cops, they show up, eventually, to punish the bad guy, not save you. They even right a nice report for you and send it to the killboards.


No, I understand concord is not there to protect me. There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP.

I just remember the day I smartbombed somebody out during a mission and got punished in no time flat. This one was rather sad as I never saw Concord. Just my hull melt.
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