Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yeah, no. No one should ever be arbitrarily locked out of space. Why shouldn't pirates have the ability to roam around FW lowsec? And what do you mean they don't take any risks? Anyone flying around in lowsec is experiencing a degree of risk. And if you joined FW to PvP and make money while your doing it, why do you care if someone you fight is affiliated with the other faction or not? A fight is a fight either way.

As for ranks, I can't speak to that. I would like to think that there should be more to having a rank in a militia then simply having the rank itself. However as someone who has never aligned himself to a faction for FW (I'm one of the pirates you want to lock out) I really don't know much about it.

first let me say I don't have anything against pirates what I have a problem with is the uneven playing field with the whole security status system the you can't dock here crap that fw people have to put up with that neuts don't.

and by don't take the risks if I go to jita to buy and sell there is a good chance I can and will be killed by oposeing faction you as a neutral don't have to worrie about that as long as you turn in few tags ever now and then to keep up your security.

because the whole point is faction warfare not lets go to low security and pvp if that's all it was then just take the whole system out. go back to just low security pvp way it was pirates sit around all day hoping some carebear strolls thru and they can gank him.

its suppose to be about capturing and controlling space not about join the militia to go in low sec fight pirates lose all your hard won sec status.

or sit thre and watch the pirate while he stares at you waiting on his 3 buddies to get there so your forced to kill him first and take a security hit

neutrals have all the pvp benefits with non of the downsides and its not a fair way to do it. they get warp to beacons to fw targets they can dock anywere any time buy from any station they chose regardless of who owns it.

were the fw guy has to pick and chose as if you don't own that system you cant even dock

As much as I agree that there shouldn't be a sec status penalty for defending yourself in a situation where the only real defense is to kill the other guy first, I don't have a good suggestion to make. So I'll simply say that pirates aren't the only ones who can use those tags to clean up their sec status.

You make a lot of money in FW, no? You should be able to afford keeping yourself above -5 without much trouble.

In regards to Jita, though.. well.. that's a risk you take. Train up a neutral hauler/market alt on your account if you absolutely need Jita and can't do your shopping at Amarr Oris.

Thats why they pay you the big bucks to FW

Go to Amarr, get all your FW buddies to go with you. Use OOC hauler. Kill them first, turn in your own tags.

I understand you. The current ROE of my corp does not allow attacking neutrals. So getting the fights that I want to take solo can be real hard, as only the guys who can take me attack first. But I deal with it, because I like the corp for now, and try to catch the fast flashies. You dont have to deal with it. The sec status hit is small, very small. and you can always align out and warp at the first sign of trouble, if you suspect someone of waiting for backup.


Just dont try to tell everyone else to change the game to fit your style of play. Change your style of play to fit the game.

It could probably be put into the FW plex location script to give anyone entering it a suspect flag.

I am not telling anyone to change the game I am making suggestions people don't have to agree its what makes the world great everyone is entitled to there opinion

and as I have stated I have nothing against pirates I just think the system is not balanced out properly a neutral coming to a fw site is clearly looking for a fight and should be flag same as a fw target when they enter or don't let them enter people go fw cause they don't like losing the security status.

that's why before fw there was very little action in low security back in the day when I played before just a few pirate corps trying to snag the carebears who got careless and took short cuts

if they removed the security hits for folks inside a dungeon complex then who cares who comes in then its a fair fight and it would be really easy to code for novice small and med as could make using the gate tag you as suspect.

the large ones are more tricky as there is no gate

NOT EVERYONE IN FW IS THERE JUST TO MAKE ISK I for one only care enough about isk that I break even on my losses which as of yet is all I seem to do as I am new to it and still learning who to fight and who to run from and good tactics each loss I do better and better lol.

WHAT I DO CARE ABOUT IS FIGHTS FOR A REASON I don't risk ships for nothing I like to have an end goal same as those in null claiming sov I like to capture areas get benefits for doing it something that matters.

if I wanted to fight just to fight I would just go roam not be trying to actualy cap systems.

one of the best aspects I have found with fw is its not like out in null who ever brings the biggest ships usually wins. Its actually fun fights in t1 smaller ships which is what I love t1 cruiser combat is so much more engaging then the bigger stuff and it doesn't break your wallet to lose them.

This is a good idea. Now how to deal with the cloaky stab farmers... FW Plex does not have any sec status penalties for attacking neutrals AND cloaking devices are not functional too. Now we are getting somewhere.