Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Sell all option

The basic idea is to be able to select multiple (all) items in your inventory, right click -- Sell all. When you press this button you generate a price quote, from this you either accept or decline the price quote.

All the basic mechanics besides the "Sell all option" described below already exist in the game...

The Details of the idea

How is the price quote generated?
Right now the game defaults to top buy order price (that is in your range), the sell all button simply sums up all these default prices for all the selected items. So it is the Sum of all the top buy orders. There should not be an option to change the price individually you want to make a sell order you should make that on an individual basis

What if a buy order fails? -- Wouldn't this create a sell order?
The duration of the sell all button should be set to "immediate" by default with no way to change it. What does this do? Basically it searches for all orders with a designated price if such a price exists the item is sold. If no such price is found then the order fails and the item(s) are returned back to your inventory. (THIS IS ALREADY A MECHANIC IN THE GAME). The idea here is the sell all button gives you a price quote, behind this price quote are all the top (default prices) buy orders for this item.. these prices become locked, and when you click on the sell all-->accept button the game sees if it can "immediately" sell all the selected items at the locked in prices.

What if an order has Less Quantity then you Have?

Part of the "Immediate" mechanic is that you will fill this order, and if there is another order at that same price you would fill that order too. If there are no more orders and you still have Quanity remaining the remaining quantity returns back to your inventory. (This is already how it works on a individual basis)

Quick Example.

Say I want to sell 5 Trit and 5 Pyerite
The top buy order in range is 4 trit for 4 isk each and 3 pyerite for 8 isk each
If you select both items.. right click sell all you will get a price quote
the price quote will be 20+45 = 65 isk..
You accept this price
you will fill both orders, since the orders will not be able to meet the two quantities you will only receive 16 isk for the trit and 24 for the pyerite for a total of 40 isk
The remaining Trit and pyerite returns back to your inventory for a total of 1 trit and 2 pyerite
The choose sell all again to get new quote.

What if there isn't enough isk to cover all the broker fees/sales taxes? - Immediate orders have no broker fees (Already a mechanic), also sales taxes are applied only on the succesful sale of the good (after wards) current mechanic

Some UI options

The Sell all produces a window similar to the Reprocess/Refine window on the left side a list of items which you can select/unselect at will and on the right side it gives a quote...
(optional) You can even add a isk sink and have a small broker fee which is determined in the same way as the current market one is/or different acting much like refining does already... You can get perfect (no broker fee) - taxes in this case or perfect - some waste (Broker fee) - taxes.

Selecting one item with Sell all will still work... just with the above mechanic (less choice in the price setting etc)

Notes

Sales taxes always apply (how it currently works)
Broker fees need not apply (how it currently works)
Unpacakaged goods: Are not included in the Quote (they are just ignored)
Contract only goods: are also ignored.

TLDR: dock in trade hub. unload cargo.. select sell all.. get price quote.. accept.. undock and GTFO

Yes please.
Then look at people selling expensive mods for chump-change on stations.
Then they all come to the forums, write tickets and demanding that this would be fixed.

That would be lots of fun to read.


Edit: But it should not automatically recognize what can be sold on market and what not. Make people go furious searching for that one contract only item in der 600 item hangar.

The idea is that it gives you a quote. So yes someone may overlook the quote but they still get a quote on selling single items so who cares in both cases if they sell something for a low price.

I was thinking of suggesting something like this but when I started comparing this to Refining/Reprocessing in those two cases you only get a total number of minerals with multiple items. So in that vain when you try to do multiple things at the same time you lose some information about the specific item in return for doing things a lot faster.

I specifically address this issue in the post

By the default the "sell all" option should have its order as an "immediate" duration this current game mechanic if the buy order price goes up in the the interim of you pressing the sell all button.. and accepting the quote it will sell at the "locked in" lower price... (how it works for individual items right now). If someone fills an order in the interim... the order will just fail as it does already.

The issue here is?

Your first link has nothing to do with the proposal, it's just an estimator of value. It's more of a pirates tool for people deciding to gank a freighter or missions ship.

The second is indeed a player run business that appears to so pretty much what the client should already be able to do. A fine example of capitalism at work, as there is a clear need and someone has stepped forward with a way to fill it.