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iLoL - increase your Length of Life - a tool for station trader
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Krista Ransdotter
Cerberus Heavy Industries
#1 - 2014-02-20 11:48:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Krista Ransdotter
iLoL* - increase your Length of Life and revenue - a tool for station trader to save their lifetime from senseless typing


The new development of Science and Trade Institute, iLoL, allows you to save the highest buy price or lowest sell price in clipboard.
You havn't to type it manually and with a single click you can change from buy to sell price or visa versa.

Screenshot 1 - overview

In the first screenshot you will see the iLoL in action.
The iLoL registrates a exported market log and sorts the prices for you.
If you want, you can save the lowest sell price or highest buy prices automatically to clipboard. Naturally with +- 0.01 isk in the right direction.

When you update your buy order with the automatically clipboarded price, drag the mouse to your sell order and in the middle click on the "sell"-Button in the red bordered transparent box to save the sell price to clipboard. Then update your sell order.

This is the "spare lifetime"-component of the iLoL.
You know how long it takes to update market orders manually, with the iLoL it will only take two or three seconds to update buy and sell order (only depends of the eve client).


Screenshot 2 - settings

The second important component is the calculation of profits.
In the first screen you saw a yellow bordered box with a percentage profit of the selected item.
iLoL will calculate the profit depends on your skills and standings (see second screen).
First step is to create a profile and second step is to set skilllevels and standing (also corp standing) on you current station.

You can decide faster and better to buy or not to buy.


New Features


  • Following Raikia Nardieu' suggestion, the iLoL can be displayed on a pre-selected screen.
    • Start the iLoL and select the desired graphic device and restart the program (the red "1" in Screenshot 3).


  • The red "2" shows a switch to select the "pro mode" of stationtrading. Without it, the autocopied price is +-0.01 to the sell- or buyorder.
    • Toggle the switch to get the numberfield in the translucent box.
    With the new numberfield you can choose the difference in price as a percentage of the profit. Then save the new price and paste it to modify your marketorder.


The procedure is:

  1. export a market log
  2. move your mouse over the numberfield
  3. roll your mousewheel to select a percentage (shown a factor)
  4. click "Buy" or "Sell" next to the numberfield to save price in clipboard


Depening on "Buy" or "Sell", the difference in price will be added or subtracted to the matching order.
E.g. highest buyprice plus 5% of profit OR lowest sellprice minus 5% of profit
The difference in margin and profit is shown below the "unmodified" labels.


  • The detection rate for exported market logs is now close to 100%.


Screenshot 3 - Settings

Screenshot 4 - Overview





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Try it and you will never want to trade without it again.


This is a free service from Science and Trade Institute, but if you want to tell me how much time you save, donate some ISK ;)

Advice: Use an Adblocker
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iLoL is a java-based offline-program.


To run iLoL, extract it in a seperate folder and doubleclick the iLoL.jar or the start.bat.
iLoL needs a installed Java Runtime Enviroment (link above).
If there are any problems feel free to tell it. Science and Trade Institute will try to solve any problems.




Have a good time without typing numbers,
Krista Ransdotter,
Head of development,
iLoL development section,
742 Evergreen Terrace,
Springfield,
Caldari Prime,
New Eden,
Universe


*inspired by Elinor
Indo Nira
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-02-21 14:00:26 UTC
Krista Ransdotter wrote:

stuff



Your download link doesn't work
Texty
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-02-22 12:56:19 UTC
Indo Nira wrote:
Krista Ransdotter wrote:

stuff



Your download link doesn't work

May be you're using the "EVE forum Gold" script + Firefox? Try opening the download link in a new tab. At least that worked for me.

To OP:

Surely sounds like a very interesting app. However, I'm not quite sure how to make the app fetch market prices.

The app seems to start up alright.
Do I then "Export to File" in-game the desired merchandise? I tried that but nothing happens to the app. My market logs are in "F:\Documents\EVE\logs\Marketlogs" if that has any relevance.
The translucent button in the middle of the screen is clickable but only copies a "0".

The app currently looks like this (screenshot) on my PC. Not sure if this is how it's supposed to be.
My PC is windows7 64.
Krista Ransdotter
Cerberus Heavy Industries
#4 - 2014-02-24 17:27:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Krista Ransdotter
Ahoi.

The standard market log folder is "C:\Users\**username**\Documents\EVE\logs\Marketlogs\", its hardwired at this moment. The iLoL is watching for changes in this specific log folder and if there isn't any change no logfile will be read.

The translucent is copiing the hardwired dummy zero for buy and sell price if there isn't another price. It's the proceeding of the "log folder error".


I will implement a mechanism that everyone can save his or her own market log folder. The new version will be uploaded tomorrow ;)

Have a good time without typing numbers,
Krista Ransdotter
Amsterdam Conversations
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-02-25 11:55:07 UTC
Most awesome program ever. I <3 you so much.

Just one question: Did you verify that this program is allowed to be used? I realize it doesn't do a lot (and certainly doesn't do anything within the client), but it saves so much time it's almost criminal. Big smile

A different thing: Standings don't seem to be calculated for me. It finds out the correct broker fee but doesn't really apply it in the overview window. Tax doesn't seem to be applied to the profit either.
Krista Ransdotter
Cerberus Heavy Industries
#6 - 2014-02-25 14:22:02 UTC
Ahoi.

@ change market log directory:

Its ready and will be uploaded.


@ not applicated broker fee and tax:

Fu, I forgot about it. I will correct it now ;)


And no, I didn't verify that this program is allowed. I hope that it is ok ;)


Have a good time without typing numbers,
Krista Ransdotter
Krista Ransdotter
Cerberus Heavy Industries
#7 - 2014-02-25 15:20:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Krista Ransdotter
Ahoi.

Problems are solved and the iLoL v1.1 is online ;)


Have a good time without typing numbers,
Krista Ransdotter
Krista Ransdotter
Cerberus Heavy Industries
#8 - 2014-03-01 08:16:06 UTC
*hust*
Krista Ransdotter
Cerberus Heavy Industries
#9 - 2014-03-02 19:34:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Krista Ransdotter
There was a small mistake in calculating the profit.

This is the new version.

Have a good time without typing numbers,
Krista Ransdotter
Texty
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-03-07 02:09:59 UTC
OK, I've set the path to my market log folder and now it's working pretty well :)

Occasionally, this warning (http://gyazo.com/f1335c7608760d0dee51a3c015d57b2f.png) pops up when I press the in-game export to log button. I don't know what it's saying but pressing "OK" and exporting the log again seems to resolve the problem. Am I doing something wrong here or is this a problem with the app?

Feature request: Would it be possible to make the "Enable auto copy" check-box persist between sessions?

I must say this is a very nice app. Thank you for sharing Krista :)
Krista Ransdotter
Cerberus Heavy Industries
#11 - 2014-03-07 09:46:52 UTC
Ahoi.

Texty wrote:
OK, I've set the path to my market log folder and now it's working pretty well :)


Fine :)

Texty wrote:
Feature request: Would it be possible to make the "Enable auto copy" check-box persist between sessions?


Yes, I will do it with the next update.

Texty wrote:
Occasionally, this warning (http://gyazo.com/f1335c7608760d0dee51a3c015d57b2f.png) pops up when I press the in-game export to log button. I don't know what it's saying but pressing "OK" and exporting the log again seems to resolve the problem. Am I doing something wrong here or is this a problem with the app?


You did nothing wrong. This warning will popup when a buggy generated market log contains numbers with four instead of two decimal places. The message is a remnant from an older version. I will correct it with the next update.

Texty wrote:
I must say this is a very nice app. Thank you for sharing Krista :)


;)



Have a good time without typing numbers,
Krista Ransdotter
Ferro Mapindazi
#12 - 2014-03-09 21:48:42 UTC
I hope this program works better then your spamming it every 30 seconds in Jita local does.
Spammers get blocked.

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kais58
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-03-10 02:48:46 UTC
so what does this do that elinor doesn't exactly?
Krista Ransdotter
Cerberus Heavy Industries
#14 - 2014-03-10 17:19:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Krista Ransdotter
kais58 wrote:
so what does this do that elinor doesn't exactly?


Nothing.
But Elinor isn't supported longer, afaik.

And Elinor didn't start anymore after a Windows Update a few month ago, so I had to rebuild it ;)


Have a good time without typing numbers,
Krista Ransdotter
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#15 - 2014-03-10 22:23:10 UTC
Cheers for this! And an extra +1 for Java ^^

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Jaari Val'Dara
Grim Sleepers
#16 - 2014-04-18 16:04:12 UTC
Your sales tax is calculated wrong, at level 5 accounting it should be 0.75% instead of 0.5%
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-04-19 21:45:59 UTC
In the screen it shows faint copy buy/sell popup on the top buy order. Where this comes from? Is it just displayed as separate app or is it dx overlay like overlays for voice coms?

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Maru Niffilen
United Trading Organisation
#18 - 2014-04-21 07:06:48 UTC
Krista Ransdotter wrote:
kais58 wrote:
so what does this do that elinor doesn't exactly?


Nothing.
But Elinor isn't supported longer, afaik.

And Elinor didn't start anymore after a Windows Update a few month ago, so I had to rebuild it ;)


Have a good time without typing numbers,
Krista Ransdotter

I was wondering the same thing, it looked like a ugly looking (windows 95 style) copy. Sorry. I will stay with Elinor as long it works and offers the same options. But to be honest, I'm happy that somebody created a new tool because of the ongoing support.

Thanks for the effort and sharing, keep it up!
Krista Ransdotter
Cerberus Heavy Industries
#19 - 2014-04-23 16:56:50 UTC
Ahoi.

I will correct the issues at this weekend. Then I will remove the unnecessary warning message and set the autocopy to true.

Max Kolonko wrote:

In the screen it shows faint copy buy/sell popup on the top buy order. Where this comes from? Is it just displayed as separate app or is it dx overlay like overlays for voice coms?


This transparent allways-on-top frame comes from the iLoL. If you are using a windowed eve client, you sould see it.

Maru Niffilen wrote:

I was wondering the same thing, it looked like a ugly looking (windows 95 style) copy.


The iLoL will get the look-and-feel from your operating system. If you're using these creepy Aero Glass LaF, the iLoL will try to look equally nice ;)

Maru Niffilen wrote:

Sorry. I will stay with Elinor as long it works and offers the same options. But to be honest, I'm happy that somebody created a new tool because of the ongoing support.


Of cause, you do. There is no need for an apology ;)


Have a good time without typing numbers,
Krista Ransdotter
Maru Niffilen
United Trading Organisation
#20 - 2014-04-23 17:08:16 UTC
Krista Ransdotter wrote:
Ahoi.

Maru Niffilen wrote:

I was wondering the same thing, it looked like a ugly looking (windows 95 style) copy.


The iLoL will get the look-and-feel from your operating system. If you're using these creepy Aero Glass LaF, the iLoL will try to look equally nice ;)

I was thinking that this is the case but for some reason I wasn't able to download the tool. Now it worked. There's no Aero Glass in Win 8 and I'm happy with that Lol
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