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Counter to small gang T3s? Tips?
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fenistil
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-03-02 13:40:53 UTC
Hello everyone!

Looking at videos like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChHnhnYZf30&list=UUkT9bqaCYoScWQecKelM1dw&feature=c4-overview
and yesterday's experience makes me wonder:

What is a decent counter to T3s?

Enemy gang consisted of legions, protei (or what the plural form is), and a loki. Total of 9 T3s and some logies. We could match their numbers plus a few but no T3s on ours side.

Any tips on what to do in such a situation to have a decent shot at making them hurt?

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Veratrix
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-03-02 15:19:47 UTC
If they just have 9 t3s and guards just make sure your extra guys are in BB/falcons with 1 scan res damp celest and eventually you'll catch jams and be able to break logi.
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#3 - 2014-03-02 16:41:56 UTC
Heavy tackle ---> Drop neuting battleships
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#4 - 2014-03-02 16:58:40 UTC
Anything will die if you titan bridge it hard enough.
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#5 - 2014-03-02 20:55:49 UTC
Get some decent force (command ships for example) and force multipliers (preferrably logi and bonused neuts).

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fenistil
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-03-03 11:45:42 UTC
Thanks for the tips...

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Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-03-03 13:07:00 UTC
falcon ftw logi loves falcon
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#8 - 2014-03-03 20:44:17 UTC
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
falcon ftw logi loves falcon

I got that logi a falcon!
LOGIS LOVE FALCONS!

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp
Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front - Reborn
#9 - 2014-03-04 11:31:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ynot Eyob
Neuts and damps, and alot of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNi7HRYpAog

Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2014-03-04 11:40:54 UTC
A curse or two with reconV trained will fix the problem. Heck, in small gang a curse or two will fix most problems really.
Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#11 - 2014-03-04 13:08:11 UTC
As said above... Lots of neuts for both the T3's to stop a lot of their DPS.

More neuts for the guards, along with ECM and Damps.

In short you will likely need twice the numbers at least in T1 ships, or maybe a few less with the right mix of neut BS, recons etc.
Blodhgarm Dethahal
8 Sins of Man
Stray Dogs.
#12 - 2014-03-04 14:49:36 UTC
Geddons, Armor Jam Scorps and Logi with assorted DPS.
Terbulus
Dog Soldier Collective
#13 - 2014-03-04 23:45:31 UTC
Neut vexor navies, with exequrors and blackbirds at range
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#14 - 2014-03-05 10:38:39 UTC
RHML phoons! and hope they all die before you need to reload. :D
Karen Galeo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-03-09 23:12:58 UTC
Heh. RHML 'Phoon is an interesting idea. :D The traditional way to ruin a Legion or Proteus' day, though, is with neuts. Neut the T3's, tackle and tear down the logi, then win. :)

Author of the Karen 162 blog.
Maximus Decimal
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-03-10 01:54:58 UTC
Nobody has mentioned webs, these gu us are working on small Sig radius, of you are turret based you are goin to need webs.
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#17 - 2014-03-10 02:08:55 UTC
Maximus Decimal wrote:
Nobody has mentioned webs, these gu us are working on small Sig radius, of you are turret based you are goin to need webs.



That's what heavy tackle is...
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-03-16 07:06:14 UTC
Geddons.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#19 - 2014-03-20 13:18:14 UTC
If you have 10 guys you could try triple guard, double geddon, double quad damp celestis, and the 5 AHAC preferably sacs.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#20 - 2014-03-20 13:55:29 UTC
God's Apples wrote:
If you have 10 guys you could try triple guard, double geddon, double quad damp celestis, and the 5 AHAC preferably sacs.


Or triple Guard/Bhaal/6 Sacs, Med neuts on the Sacs + Bhaal should be effective at shutting everything down.
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