Player Features and Ideas Discussion

How would you know? ...prove your case first. I contend that it's not common. In fact, I contend that 90% of the time those who you claim are bots are not bots at all. Why don't you define what you mean by "bot" in the first place.. because if I have to go by this thread it means different things to different people.
Already been tried. High sec has been nerfed ad infinite with the result that many just step up their game to work harder and smarter. You say that people will just stop trying to make a profit? There is no proof that this is the case but lets say for the sake of this paragraph that your unlikely hypothesis that mining in high sec is out of control rampant and the only reason is because of cheap plexing and huge profits in high sec. Still the cost of plex has more than doubled over the last two years and is still rising and that hasn't slowed the envy or bigotry from those in null sec, causing them to claim everyone in high sec is a bot. Some years ago, before PLEX was a thing, low end minerals were less than half what they are now.. complaints about "botting" were just as prevalent. So lets fix that by reducing all high sec industry to a zero gain state; no one can make any isk at all in high sec. There are many players who have no place in null sec..at all; they cannot and do not want to compete there nor do they wish to become a conglomerate slave - what happens to them under this draconian plan? They leave the game because they no longer have time or money to even partially pay for it and why pay for a game that is no longer fun at all because you have no place.
Face it, there are many corps that run high sec industry without botting; they have a niche..you would kill it.
No, all high sec mining will disappear altogether. Normal high sec players already do many things to make money including mining, manufacture, incursion, missions, PI (less than they used to thanks to ungodly nerfs and POCO over taxation), and trade. The average high sec player is smart when it comes to scraping even the smallest margin out of a high sec processes. At the point that high sec mining is no longer cost effective they will purchase null sec basic ores for a higher rate.. and just jack up the prices on everything they make that you buy. There will be no sucking sound of players rushing to live in null sec; there will just be a lot of unmined material. Again, you could end high sec completely and players will just quit.
Really? belts of low end ore are already so plentiful that they are not all completely mined by any stretch of the imagination. There are belts in anomalies, there are signature belts, there are belts in missions.. plus there are normal belts.. then too, there are reprocessing minerals that come from unneeded loot - much of this goes unmined. Still, most of the value in manufacturing does not come from the prices on low end minerals. it's the skill of the mid-level indy corp that makes it profitable. These high sec corps will still mine like crazy and make a profit. You could completely do away with all manufacturing materials in game and the result would be people leaving the game in droves. Do not forget that most eve players play in high sec. You just said that most people would just mine what they need.. which is not true. As I've already pointed out the minerals exist and are not mined now. Creating more minerals would not spur more pilots to mine for their own ships unless the mining became faster, reducing the time they need to spend to gain the minerals; they do not want to mine even the currently available minerals nor would they want to on principle.

Bots are really not the problem they once were...at least not in high sec. I know this because I am a stay at home mom who mines many hours a day in high sec.. I know these people that you call bots. They multi box...they mine long hours. but they do not use any third party support software to gain an advantage. You seek to punish them because you are jealous, because you think you are doing something to make the game better, because you are greedy and see profit in doing away with high sec. The bottom line is your suggestion would be bad for the game and the majority of the players who do not bot. I vote "no" on this idea.

...and how would that work out for multi-boxers? or is your purpose to make multi-boxing impossible even though it is not against the EULA and is even encouraged by CCP?

I'm all in favor of new types of valuable ore with new types of mining that incorporate mini-games but not such that they replace all current mining.

Keep on defending botting, bro.

How about a 5 minute minigame to make a forum post?

Good luck buying Raven hull at 1 bill.

OP, why do you care about bots anyways? The economy is stable with minor inflation, bots get cracked down by CCP when they find them, what is the deal?

I'm sure more balancing issues would then come into play, but I'd love to see the playing focus shifting more in such a direction, ie basically players helping each other.

You missed the part where the Op admitted this was simply an attempt to Nerf Highsec.

Without any officer or deadspace spawns, I'm not sure there would be major income issues in basic null BS's in High sec thinking about it. Of course, BS rats in Empire space in the main belts is just a weird thing. Since supposedly they patrol it.

Cooperate? You train for a simple cruiser and murder the rat and come back in your barge. Or you just tank your ship accordingly. Or you have your alt in an Ishtar in the belt and mine undisturbed. Cooperation through better rats? Don't make me laugh.

Moreover, better rat spawns in highsec just undermines the 00 income even more. Why should I go to 00, when I can rat BS spawns in high sec or low sec. To be frank, that sounds like an awesome idea. I like Domain and Aridia more than any of the dull 00 regions, so I can live there and rat there for my income.