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Possibly Raven lvl 4 fit?
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Josh-Mister Boss
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#1 - 2014-03-01 12:39:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Josh-Mister Boss
Ive been doing lvl 3 in my Drake and has bought a Raven. would this raven fit be able to solo a 4?

'Arbalest' Cruise Laucher I x6

Larg Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier I x2
Thermic Dissipation Field I
Kinetic Dissipation Field I x2
Large Capacitor Battery II

Capacitor Flux Coil II x2
Ballistic Control System II x3

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I x3

Its Stable, with a dps of 360
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-03-01 12:52:02 UTC
don't waste slots on trying to be cap stable. rather fit a cap booster instead of the battery. flux coils in particular are a bad idea.

I should buy an Ishtar.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-03-01 12:55:27 UTC
I prefer a XL shield booster just because it has more burst tank. One of the MJD fits would be a good choice if you're just starting. I'm on my phone or I would post one. Search the forums because I've seen them posted.
Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-03-01 20:21:12 UTC
Here's a basic raven fit with some extra tank and no MJD.

[Raven, L4 Basic]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Thermic Dissipation Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
100MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

You use the shield booster only when you have taken damage. Trying to permarun it will drop your damage to the level of your old drake, making your raven just a slower drake with worse damage application.

It's not the only working fit but I've found it a good one for learning the raven.

This post was rated "C" for capsuleer.
Treborr MintingtonJr
S.N.O.T
S.N.O.T.
#5 - 2014-03-02 12:04:40 UTC
You could use this for the mid slots if you wanted to use range tank. You'll never have to worry about being scrammed.

Mid slots:
MJD
Xlarge shield booster
Shield boost amplifier
2 shield hardeners
Target painter
Sensor booster with targeting range script

(soz on phone)
Boomhaur
#6 - 2014-03-02 16:50:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Boomhaur
deleted, forums are acting weird and not always posting what I type so I lost what I wrong and just ended up quoting somone.

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GordonO
BURN EDEN
#7 - 2014-03-02 19:49:02 UTC  |  Edited by: GordonO
This works.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6YaOK3p-zs.
I am also sure with a small change the old liang fit still works, its what I used way back when... https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Raven_%28Fitting%29

... What next ??
Josh-Mister Boss
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#8 - 2014-03-03 05:39:55 UTC
It Has a good snipe range couldn't I just sit back at 100 and pick off all the Battleships and get drones to take frigs?
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-03-03 16:48:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Caleidascope
Josh-Mister Boss wrote:
It Has a good snipe range couldn't I just sit back at 100 and pick off all the Battleships and get drones to take frigs?

Raven targeting range is 93km, so no, you are not going to reach 100km. Two signal boosters with targeting range scripts will let you reach 220km, but you don't have any of them in your fit. Or you can use signal amplifiers, but again, you did not fit any.

Elite rat frigs will eat your drones. So, either you help your drones with the missiles or you loose your drones.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#10 - 2014-03-03 22:03:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ion Kirst
Josh, this and Keras' fit will just be better for you, and as many of the suggestions posted above:

In most L4s, you really don't need an afterburner, let alone a MJD. I also like Liang's fit from years ago, but now there's an extra mid slot on the Raven.

Rigs:

2x rigors, Ix flare

Highs:

6x Arbalest Cruise launchers, with Caldari missiles

Mids:

X-L Shield Bstr II, (or a Pith A/B, they're really cheap)
Ionic Fld Accel, or SBA II
2x Mission specific named hardeners or tech II
1xMission specific named amps or tech II
Heavy F-RX Cap booster with 800 charges (about 15 in the hold should be more than enough)
Target Painter or Webber

Lows:

4x BCU II
DC II or a signal booster

10x light tech II drones

This gives you a much better shield and more dps. You do not have to be cap stable, just pulse the SB as needed.

I know there are variations for different missions, but you could use something like this as a basic fit on which to build from.


-Ion

Josh, to answer your question, Yes your fit would work for L4's, but I'm not sure how good it would work.

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-03-04 14:10:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Arsine Mayhem
Ion Kirst wrote:

In most L4s, you really don't need an afterburner, let alone a MJD. I also like Liang's fit from years ago, but now there's an extra mid slot on the Raven.


MJD will save a newer player who isn't skilled real well yet a lot of trouble trying to tank short range damage, and having to warp out.

I wouldn't fit a long range ship without an MJD no matter what the skills myself. Less tank -> more gank.

Swap resistes for mission specific.

Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster isn't to much either.

[Raven, L4 Basic] <- changed it up a little.

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Thermic Dissipation Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I


Hobgoblin II x10
Hornet EC-300 x5
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#12 - 2014-03-04 21:08:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ion Kirst
Arsine Mayhem wrote:




MJD will save a newer player who isn't skilled real well yet a lot of trouble trying to tank short range damage, and having to warp out.

I wouldn't fit a long range ship without an MJD no matter what the skills myself. Less tank -> more gank.

__________


I agree, they shouldn't (fly without one), and you shouldn't. It will save them and you, but as you get more experience in L4s, you will find it simply is not needed. I tried it when they first came out, and it was just too troublesome, especially if I would have to make my way to a gate 50km away. I could bounce around all day, but still have to go that 50km. With a good tank, and plenty of dps, you can just sit still (in many missions), and just start eliminating targets.

With this toon, I get 1362hp/4s with a Pith B x-l SB. (and on my Golem, with Bastion, that comes out to over 2600hp/4s, which is IMHO, way over the top, but hey, it's available.) I could go with a large SB, but I have the XL one. To each his own.

And for gank, no matter what my tank is, I will always put out 984dps (with fury) on a Raven. (funny, it's the same on the Golem, but the volley goes from 6060 to 8080.)

Sorry, for going off topic.

-Ion

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-03-05 01:01:31 UTC
havent seen a fit of how i like to fly so i will just post, be warned that is a fit i use with my skills pretty close to all l5 and u still need a 2% CPU implant but with only t1 missile launchers it should free grid. It would also work with a mjd when u change the shield booster to meta 4 or to a c-type.

[Raven, Sansha mission]

6x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Inferno Fury Cruise Missile)
Drone Link Augmentor II

Heavy Capacitor Booster II (Cap Booster 800)
X-Large Shield Booster II
100MN Afterburner II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
2x EM Ward Amplifier II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

4x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Signal Amplifier II

2x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II

5x Hammerhead II
5x Hobgoblin II
Treborr MintingtonJr
S.N.O.T
S.N.O.T.
#14 - 2014-03-05 12:46:58 UTC
Ion Kirst wrote:
Arsine Mayhem wrote:




MJD will save a newer player who isn't skilled real well yet a lot of trouble trying to tank short range damage, and having to warp out.

I wouldn't fit a long range ship without an MJD no matter what the skills myself. Less tank -> more gank.

__________


I agree, they shouldn't (fly without one), and you shouldn't. It will save them and you, but as you get more experience in L4s, you will find it simply is not needed. I tried it when they first came out, and it was just too troublesome, especially if I would have to make my way to a gate 50km away. I could bounce around all day, but still have to go that 50km. With a good tank, and plenty of dps, you can just sit still (in many missions), and just start eliminating targets.

With this toon, I get 1362hp/4s with a Pith B x-l SB. (and on my Golem, with Bastion, that comes out to over 2600hp/4s, which is IMHO, way over the top, but hey, it's available.) I could go with a large SB, but I have the XL one. To each his own.

And for gank, no matter what my tank is, I will always put out 984dps (with fury) on a Raven. (funny, it's the same on the Golem, but the volley goes from 6060 to 8080.)

Sorry, for going off topic.

-Ion


Reasons I would fit an MJD goes beyond what is needed for Level 4 missions, its a lifeline to save you from blobs of gankers, war targets and other hostiles in general. Great for 'gtfo' in a fat (but beautiful (-;) battleship. A habit from nullsec.
Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-03-05 14:36:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Arsine Mayhem
Ion Kirst wrote:


I agree, they shouldn't (fly without one), and you shouldn't. It will save them and you, but as you get more experience in L4s, you will find it simply is not needed. I tried it when they first came out, and it was just too troublesome, especially if I would have to make my way to a gate 50km away. I could bounce around all day, but still have to go that 50km. With a good tank, and plenty of dps, you can just sit still (in many missions), and just start eliminating targets.


If you get your angles right, you never have to approach a gate. A jump 70-100km aligned with the acceleration gate will land you right on top of it. If you click on tactical and zoom out, it will help with the angle. If you're having problems, this may help:

http://soulogic.com/eve/jumpcal.html

I can do a jump in any area/room and get it within range and still keep the npc's far enough out. A few rooms I jump nearly straight up, angled for a slight range increase.

One drawback is you have to wait 3 mins to jump the gate if you know you need to make another one.

Even Recon part 3 I jump past the gate, land 20km away and fly back. It doesn't drain my shields even half with an armor tank bs.
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#16 - 2014-03-05 16:30:46 UTC
unidenify
Deaf Armada
#17 - 2014-03-05 17:24:43 UTC
embrel wrote:
There's only one best fit: http://themittani.com/features/alod-go-back-wow


I never understand why people choose PITA XL SB for mission, then try to get cap stable with it.

we talk about module that suck cap faster than any sub-capital module. Not even enemy heavy neut could erase your cap this fast
Qalix
Long Jump.
#18 - 2014-03-05 18:27:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Qalix
As you've probably noticed by now, all of these fits are essentially variations on one another. My variation is below. It can be hard to look at EFT, see short capacitor drain times, and shrug it off. But you should. The fit below can be a cap hog if you take it too far, but I've never had an issue except once, and that was in an epic arc mission. Flown at range, you'll rarely need to burst your shield rep. I rarely get past half shields, rarer still to 2/3 or worse.

Some people will not like the MWD, but it is way more useful than a cap booster I don't need, more tank I don't need, or more target painters I don't need (i kind of don't need the one that's there; with excellent missile skills and precision missiles, I don't have many frigate issues). I find it invaluable for moving around to loot cans/objectives, extending kite range in short bursts (not running away, just preventing BS's from closing quickly), and going gate to gate. With the range tactics, sometimes even the MJD doesn't get you close to your objective.

It is definitely CPU heavy, but with my skills only a 1% implant or a T2 overclock rig is necessary beyond the actual fit listed. I use a 3% implant, which gives me some room to play with the fit for specific situations. Hardeners determined by mission.

[Raven, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Signal Amplifier II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Micro Jump Drive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Pith B-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I

Warrior II x5
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#19 - 2014-03-05 18:42:30 UTC
I use MJD and afterburner. MWD is fine but I don't like the affect it has on my cap and the MJD is gold for getting out to range and for getting out from under npc scrams if you screw up and shoot a trigger.

Beyond that, those mods also help in other ways, if someone tries to gank you and they use disruptors instead of scrams, the mjd can help you jump out of range.m if the do scram you you can after burner away and hope your transversal will save you. Been missioning for 7 years and I don't undock without an mjd on if i'm in a battleship.