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where should i scan?

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Zack Korth
Livid CO.
#1 - 2014-03-01 21:18:10 UTC
i stay near dodixie (for the local chat), what should i be scanning for and wheres a good place to do it? i flew to decon the other day and i scanned, i think a data site, i did the hacker minigame and it spit out these colored boxes, i grabbed a few and only made like 70,000 ISK.. is it all this pointless?
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
#2 - 2014-03-01 21:19:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Anywhere but highsec or autopilot routes.

Get into lowsec and npc null off the main transport pipes and you'll find less populated systems with more variety and value.
Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
#3 - 2014-03-01 21:42:39 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Anywhere but highsec or autopilot routes.

Get into lowsec and npc null off the main transport pipes and you'll find less populated systems with more variety and value.


^This guy wants you to go in low/null so him or his buddies can kill you.



There are off the beaten path high sec systems with plenty of stuff to scan and isk to be made. I'm not saying don't go to low/null, but the manta of "high sec sucks" in regards to cosmic signatures is overplayed and shallow.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
Warped Intentions
#4 - 2014-03-01 21:46:57 UTC
Open dotlan
go to region map
select jumps / npc kills / ship kills data
this should find you the quiet systems where you will die less / signatures build up

and yes, money is much better in low and even better in 0.0

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Surviving_Nullsec
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
#5 - 2014-03-01 21:59:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Hadrian Blackstone wrote:
^This guy wants you to go in low/null so him or his buddies can kill you.
A little paranoid I think.

Lowsec isn't as dangerous as you make out and npc null even less so in the right places.

So he can take or leave my suggestion, no problem.

Not all lowsec or nullsec players are out to gank explorers. I'll scan them down and go say hello if they are in system, but my exploration alt has never been attacked and only ever had another explorer warp in to a site.
GOTBOT
U.S. Robots and Mechanical Men
#6 - 2014-03-01 22:29:17 UTC
data & relic sites loot - JUST ****.

"Ideally", you can get a "lot", but usually it is 100,000 ISK

This refers to: hisec, low, WH & null..

Also you have constantly clickkkkiiing|clickkkkiiing|clickkkkiiing..

S`H`I`T

Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
#7 - 2014-03-01 22:37:46 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Hadrian Blackstone wrote:
^This guy wants you to go in low/null so him or his buddies can kill you.
A little paranoid I think.

Lowsec isn't as dangerous as you make out and npc null even less so in the right places.

So he can take or leave my suggestion, no problem.

Not all lowsec or nullsec players are out to gank explorers. I'll scan them down and go say hello if they are in system, but my exploration alt has never been attacked and only ever had another explorer warp in to a site.


Paranoid or truthful? You pick.

1.) Low/null is dangerous. If you are not blued up with the right people, especially.
2.) Not all are out to gank explorers, but most will try.
3.) You scan people down in low/null and warp to them just to say hi? Does "go say hello" mean "ram a missile up their ass"?
4.) Your explo alt has never been attacked, congrats. And you take this to mean no one will attack an explorer ever?
5.) Cloaky ganks will scan down relic/data sites and wait for explorers to come in, get the loot, then uncloak and shoot them. But, you knew all this already.
Zack Korth
Livid CO.
#8 - 2014-03-01 22:41:45 UTC
ok thanks for the insight guys
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
#9 - 2014-03-01 22:48:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Hadrian Blackstone wrote:
Paranoid or truthful? You pick.

1.) Low/null is dangerous. If you are not blued up with the right people, especially.
2.) Not all are out to gank explorers, but most will try.
3.) You scan people down in low/null and warp to them just to say hi? Does "go say hello" mean "ram a missile up their ass"?
4.) Your explo alt has never been attacked, congrats. And you take this to mean no one will attack an explorer ever?
5.) Cloaky ganks will scan down relic/data sites and wait for explorers to come in, get the loot, then uncloak and shoot them. But, you knew all this already.
Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning because it seems you need a chill pill or three?

The OP asked a question and I made a suggestion. That's all there was too it. It actually was a useful suggestion because there are good sites to be found in lowsec and nullsec. There is less competition from other explorers and the loot can be better than highsec.

This doesn't need to be turned into something it isn't and how to explore safely in lowsec and nullsec is a separate question, which I'm more than happy to help the OP with if he asks.

In relation to missiles, I would never. Disgusting things really. I much prefer blasters.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
Warped Intentions
#10 - 2014-03-01 22:52:47 UTC
Hadrian Blackstone wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Hadrian Blackstone wrote:
^This guy wants you to go in low/null so him or his buddies can kill you.
A little paranoid I think.

Lowsec isn't as dangerous as you make out and npc null even less so in the right places.

So he can take or leave my suggestion, no problem.

Not all lowsec or nullsec players are out to gank explorers. I'll scan them down and go say hello if they are in system, but my exploration alt has never been attacked and only ever had another explorer warp in to a site.


Paranoid or truthful? You pick.

1.) Low/null is dangerous. If you are not blued up with the right people, especially.
2.) Not all are out to gank explorers, but most will try.
3.) You scan people down in low/null and warp to them just to say hi? Does "go say hello" mean "ram a missile up their ass"?
4.) Your explo alt has never been attacked, congrats. And you take this to mean no one will attack an explorer ever?
5.) Cloaky ganks will scan down relic/data sites and wait for explorers to come in, get the loot, then uncloak and shoot them. But, you knew all this already.


Yea and, you die, you go get a new ship. Not the end of the world.

Stay out busy systems like I said. If you're still a newb hacker, go to one of the lowsec ghost towns like Aradia or lowsec Solitude or somewhere.
Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
#11 - 2014-03-01 23:00:14 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Hadrian Blackstone wrote:
Paranoid or truthful? You pick.

1.) Low/null is dangerous. If you are not blued up with the right people, especially.
2.) Not all are out to gank explorers, but most will try.
3.) You scan people down in low/null and warp to them just to say hi? Does "go say hello" mean "ram a missile up their ass"?
4.) Your explo alt has never been attacked, congrats. And you take this to mean no one will attack an explorer ever?
5.) Cloaky ganks will scan down relic/data sites and wait for explorers to come in, get the loot, then uncloak and shoot them. But, you knew all this already.
Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning because it seems you need a chill pill or three?

The OP asked a question and I made a suggestion. That's all there was too it. It actually was a useful suggestion because there are good sites to be found in lowsec and nullsec. There is less competition from other explorers and the loot can be better than highsec.

This doesn't need to be turned into something it isn't and how to explore safely in lowsec and nullsec is a separate question, which I'm more than happy to help the OP with if he asks.

In relation to missiles, I would never. Disgusting things really. I much prefer blasters.


Am I not allowed my opinion or something?

1.) There are good sites to be found in every security system. You can find a veritable land of plenty in high sec just like in low sec. You just gotta look. Am I telling him to stay out of low/null? Absolutely not. He can do what he pleases, I am just letting him know how neut exploring will be in sov space, based off of my experiences and others.
2.) Less competition because sov belongs to certain people. The people who live out there farm those sites every day, and yes, it adds up to a hefty sum. If you try and run "their" sites, be prepared. (Side note: The best loot I've ever gotten was in high sec, and that's true for others I know, but those are perhaps exceptions...or maybe not).
3.) Thank you for telling me your weapon of choice. Smile
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
Warped Intentions
#12 - 2014-03-01 23:14:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
What people think happens

20:41 > Guys there's a guy doing a site in a heron, got a warp in from him, 5km
20:42 > Roger, standing fleet is notified and on its way

What actually happens

20:41 > Guys there's a Tengu hacking a site, 5 cans left, only 2 jumps from staging system
22:18 > Dude, that Tengu still there?
Shodan XVI
The Witch's Hammer
#13 - 2014-03-01 23:36:01 UTC
I highly suggest doing hacking sites in Null or lowsec. I started in HS for a while to get the hang of probing and the hacking mini game and started exploring in lowsec soon after, much more profitable. It's also not really that dangerous, I found a HS to Null WH the other day and spent 5 hours just jumping around and scanning stuff and came away with 150mil. During the trip I found 3 more null to null wormholes and ended up poking around half of nullsec (felt like it anyway). I saw around 10 people total in local during the trip.

Not only is it more profitable, but it actually FEELS like exploring, high sec is crowded and feels much too "lived in". Hell, jump into a wormhole and scan down a chain and enjoy the view, I'm surprised at how much I enjoy exploration in EVE, has a kind of zen feel to it. You will eventually run into trouble, but you know what? Even a fully fit, Covert ops is worth only around 30 mil isk. That's like half the value of a decent lowsec relic site. Go make bank in a T1 exploration frigate, train up your scanning skills and get into a covops and go poke around New Eden. Exploration doesn't just mean making ISK with hacking sites/combat sites, it means exploring. I'd make much more ISK if I stopped looking at all the pretty nebula.
Siddy
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-03-01 23:55:40 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus

Such riches, wow, much gas, so planet.
Sarah McKnobbo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2014-03-02 00:08:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarah McKnobbo
Go to a quieter NPC null area, learn how to safely travel in null, cargo scan the cans to find valueable loot, profit.

You don't need any blues what so ever so disregard that misinformation. Yes you will die at some point, how much depends on how alert you are, watch local and check d-scan. You can replace a cov-ops frig with the proceeds of just a few sites in null so it's no big deal.
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
#16 - 2014-03-02 00:29:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Hadrian Blackstone wrote:
Am I not allowed my opinion or something?
Sure you are.

I'd even love it if you had some reading comprehension to go along with it. That way, next time you want to claim I only gave a response in order to setup an easy gank, you can do it for a real reason and not a totally unprovoked one.

If you can find anywhere in my original post where I discussed sov null, then I offer my apology now. If you can't then as an alternative, let me know which systems you are likely to be in for the next couple of days. That will save me a trip to a locator agent. I've never ganked anyone in highsec before, so I hope I don't enjoy it too much.
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#17 - 2014-03-02 00:44:26 UTC
Hadrian Blackstone wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Anywhere but highsec or autopilot routes.

Get into lowsec and npc null off the main transport pipes and you'll find less populated systems with more variety and value.


^This guy wants you to go in low/null so him or his buddies can kill you.

no he's giving good advice you tit
Winchester Steele
#18 - 2014-03-02 00:58:07 UTC
Hadrian Blackstone wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Hadrian Blackstone wrote:
^This guy wants you to go in low/null so him or his buddies can kill you.
A little paranoid I think.

Lowsec isn't as dangerous as you make out and npc null even less so in the right places.

So he can take or leave my suggestion, no problem.

Not all lowsec or nullsec players are out to gank explorers. I'll scan them down and go say hello if they are in system, but my exploration alt has never been attacked and only ever had another explorer warp in to a site.


Paranoid or truthful? You pick.

1.) Low/null is dangerous. If you are not blued up with the right people, especially.
2.) Not all are out to gank explorers, but most will try.
3.) You scan people down in low/null and warp to them just to say hi? Does "go say hello" mean "ram a missile up their ass"?
4.) Your explo alt has never been attacked, congrats. And you take this to mean no one will attack an explorer ever?
5.) Cloaky ganks will scan down relic/data sites and wait for explorers to come in, get the loot, then uncloak and shoot them. But, you knew all this already.


Paranoid.

...

Ralen Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-03-02 00:58:15 UTC
Siddy wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus

Such riches, wow, much gas, so planet.


lmao.... wtf is up with the random youranus reference? hahahaaaa
SpoonRECKLESS
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#20 - 2014-03-02 01:14:08 UTC
Hadrian Blackstone wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Anywhere but highsec or autopilot routes.

Get into lowsec and npc null off the main transport pipes and you'll find less populated systems with more variety and value.


^This guy wants you to go in low/null so him or his buddies can kill you.



There are off the beaten path high sec systems with plenty of stuff to scan and isk to be made. I'm not saying don't go to low/null, but the manta of "high sec sucks" in regards to cosmic signatures is overplayed and shallow.


or to help him get rich.

Blue

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