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Found the FW fix
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Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
#21 - 2011-11-28 19:04:14 UTC
Only took 3+ years to "fix" it into how it should have been released from the start.... and not like occupancy has gained any meaning anyway.

SASPR Amir al-Mu'minin
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#22 - 2011-11-28 19:35:19 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Cearain wrote:

The fact is this is probably the most significant change we could get all the players to agree on.

After this change and a few other obvious smaller issues involving repping etc. there is very little we players agree on. And the players clearly can't agree on what is needed to fix fw.

The only thing we all agree on is that it needs a fix.


One important bit to point out, the CSM have specifically told me that CCP is not as much interested in how to fix FW, but what the core problems are. Apparently whether we agree on how to fix something is not as crucial as agreeing what the problem is to be begin with. They like to come up with their own fixes apparently. ...



Hans

The problem with fw plexing has been clear for years. It's LOLFW=PVE.

As the Caldari "won the war" this became increasingly obvious and so people left it.


So where is the fix?

The problem is there has never been any consensus on how to fix it.

So I don't doubt someone from csm told you this. And they may even believe it. But ccp could use more than us telling them fw plexing is broken. If they had a fix for any problem we threw at them we would at least have a dev blog explaining how they are going to fix it.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#23 - 2011-11-28 19:39:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Hirana Yoshida
Karl Planck wrote:
I swear your dodging my posts on purpose.

Not intentionally, I am just a little agitated currently due to CCP trying to sell me rusty clunker as a new model after slapping on a coat of paint.
Karl Planck wrote:
Plex spawning around the clock is necessary for any sov/plexing changes. This is a mandatory first step.

Also, plexing in itself is a good way to get pew pew. More plex's = more pew

With two per hour per system maximum - Do you really see anyone even bothering forming up to run around after alts .. alts that don't even have an ISK quota to meet like the mission whores?
True that spawn mechanics need change to make changes to anything depending on it, but adding a static timed spawn cycle does not change much of anything. They will still be massive time-sinks the encourage exploitive behaviour for people who, for Goddess knows what reason, care for their sanity.

As for pew: Unless you are planning on running a FC-tag-team type of gang (that is willing to plex mind you) 23/7 AND the enemy does the same you will not get much more pew out of this I am afraid.
They will provide excellent places to ambush reckless pirates/neutrals that seem to have made a comeback after we FW'ers stopped bothering with plexes in general .. will be a short time deal though as even the thickest neutrals will eventually stop following if all their fat-ass gang can't get in, just as they did before.

I am to be honest rather shocked at how some of my FW brothers embrace this nonsense. Guess I grossly underestimated the depth of the attention-starvation that has fuelled the lobby for so long .. saddens me to no end Sad

- Hirana Yoshida
Caretaker of the Yoshida Estate,
Sister of the honourable Veshta Yoshida, servant to the Empress.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#24 - 2011-11-28 20:11:31 UTC
Hirana Yoshida wrote:
Karl Planck wrote:
I swear your dodging my posts on purpose.

Not intentionally, I am just a little agitated currently due to CCP trying to sell me rusty clunker as a new model after slapping on a coat of paint.



I'm not sure they are doing that. I think they are just doing something we have asked for, and makes sense.

Now if they would remove those npcs, give us a notification system, and some rewards for plexing = fw would be awesome.

Of course, they would still need to balance the npcs and keep an eye on how things develop but it would be a great start.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Feilamya
#25 - 2011-11-28 20:38:05 UTC
FW "combat" sites are more or less missions where you can use MWD and therefore shamelessly exploit the dumb as **** non-existing rat AI. Too many players have figured this out, so respawn had to be increased.
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